Author: Terry Ripple
Date: 01:29:46 12/05/00
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On December 05, 2000 at 00:40:00, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 04, 2000 at 22:10:36, Laurence Chen wrote: > >>On December 04, 2000 at 17:48:10, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>These positions are from games of shredder5 that Chris Taylor posted. >>> >>>[D]2rqrb2/3n1ppk/b2p3p/1ppPpN2/p3P1P1/P1P2QR1/1PB2PP1/R1B3K1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>In this position Shredder5 played f6 and evaluated the position as 0.00 >>> >>>It is not the only case of 0.00 evaluations of lost positions of shredder. >>> >>>[D]2r2bk1/B6p/1p4p1/3Pp1q1/Q1n1P3/8/P3N1PP/R5K1 w - - 0 1 >>> >>>Here Shredder5 also played Qd7 and evaluated the position as 0.00 >>>23.Qd7 0.00/11 Bc5+ 24.Kh1 0.00/12 >>> >>> >>>[D]2rrn1k1/pp1b1pp1/1n1q4/3p1PPN/3P3R/1PNB4/P1Q2K2/6R1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>Here shredder5 evaluated the position as 0.06 pawn against itself and played >>>27...Qc6. >>> >>>The point of this post is not to attack Shredder that did very good result and >>>won the matches against the tigers but only to show that all programs and not >>>only Fritz have positions in the middle game that they are wrong when they >>>evaluate the positions as a draw. >>> >>>Uri >>Uri just because a chess engine gives an evaluation of 0.00 does not necessary >>mean that it is a drawn position. > >I know. >The point is that Thorsten attacked Fritz because Fritz showed 0.00 in middle >game positions that were certainly not a draw. >My examples were to demonstrate thorsten that this behaviour is also of programs >like Shredder5 and not only of Fritz and there is no justification to call fritz >stupid only because of the fact that there are positions that it does not >understand like every program. > >Uri -------------- An analysis of 0.00 in the middle game just means that both sides have equal chances to win from that position at that very moment! Terry
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