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Subject: Re: Bad results in CCC and good results in Gandalf beta test forum !

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 10:50:34 12/05/00

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On December 05, 2000 at 05:08:33, Christian Koch wrote:

>Hardware: 2 X Pentium 500
>Shredder: Shredder book
>Gandalf : Gandalf book
>
>30 minutes for game with Autoplayer. Gandal played with the autoplayer from R.
>Coulon.
>
>                   12345678901234567890123456789012345678
>1   Shredder 5     101½1½111½111½011111111½1½½½11½1½½1½01 29.0/38
>2   Gandalf 4.32g  010½0½000½000½100000000½0½½½00½0½½0½10  9.0/38
>
>
>Ciao,
>Christian

Hi Christian,

Shredder is very strong, also on my machine.
Gandalf lost with 5.5 : 7.5 against Shredder with 40 moves in 20 minutes.
9 games are Remis !

Gandalf plays with ~ 2.650 ELO at the moment on faster hardware with longer time
controls !

Results from Beta Tester:

Gandalf 4.32g - Chess Tiger      5.5 :  4.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   5.5 :  4.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   7.5 :  4.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   4.0 :  4.0 (Nunn)
Gandalf 4.32g - Junior 6a        7.0 :  5.0
Gandalf 4.32g - Shredder 5       5.5 :  7.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Crafty 17.13     7.5 :  2.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Gambit-Tiger     8.5 : 11.5
Gandalf 4.32g - Junior 6a       10.0 : 10.0 (Nunn)
Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   4.0 :  8.0
Gandalf 4.32g - Century 3.0      4.0 :  6.0

A result which I can now understand is 5.0 : 15.0 by Andreas Schwartmann
against Deep Fritz. In all my test games against Deep Fritz T29 make Gandalf
~50% with different time controls.

Also more postive results against Nimzo 8, Hiarcs 7-32, Junior 6 and other
programs with longer time controls.

I think the playing streng is ~ 2.650 ELO and the same as the new Chess Tiger
and Fritz with longer time controls. The games from Gandalf are very nice, in my
opinion has Gandalf a great attack style and plays wonderful games.

LCT II Test: New Rekord !
GS 2930: New Rekord (solved 10 postions)
BS 2830: New Shredder and oder Fritz 5.32 are better !

This are results on faster hardware with longer time controls from different
beta testers. The most with games with ponder !

All information in Gandalf 4.32g beta test forum !

Shredder must play with 2.950 ELO when I see your result :-)

I like the new Shredder program, it seems that Shredder is clearly better as
Shredder 4.0 in tactic positions.

Now I think Gandalf 4.32g is not to 82% the best program with longer time
controls, maybe 25% when I see how strong is the new Shredder 5.0 !

Frank



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