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Subject: Re: Bad results in CCC and good results in Gandalf beta test forum !

Author: Christian Koch

Date: 14:29:20 12/05/00

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Hi Frank,

a result 29 - 9 is not a difference by 300 ELO points!!





On December 05, 2000 at 13:50:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On December 05, 2000 at 05:08:33, Christian Koch wrote:
>
>>Hardware: 2 X Pentium 500
>>Shredder: Shredder book
>>Gandalf : Gandalf book
>>
>>30 minutes for game with Autoplayer. Gandal played with the autoplayer from R.
>>Coulon.
>>
>>                   12345678901234567890123456789012345678
>>1   Shredder 5     101½1½111½111½011111111½1½½½11½1½½1½01 29.0/38
>>2   Gandalf 4.32g  010½0½000½000½100000000½0½½½00½0½½0½10  9.0/38
>>
>>
>>Ciao,
>>Christian
>
>Hi Christian,
>
>Shredder is very strong, also on my machine.
>Gandalf lost with 5.5 : 7.5 against Shredder with 40 moves in 20 minutes.
>9 games are Remis !
>
>Gandalf plays with ~ 2.650 ELO at the moment on faster hardware with longer time
>controls !
>
>Results from Beta Tester:
>
>Gandalf 4.32g - Chess Tiger      5.5 :  4.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   5.5 :  4.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   7.5 :  4.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   4.0 :  4.0 (Nunn)
>Gandalf 4.32g - Junior 6a        7.0 :  5.0
>Gandalf 4.32g - Shredder 5       5.5 :  7.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Crafty 17.13     7.5 :  2.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Gambit-Tiger     8.5 : 11.5
>Gandalf 4.32g - Junior 6a       10.0 : 10.0 (Nunn)
>Gandalf 4.32g - Deep Fritz T29   4.0 :  8.0
>Gandalf 4.32g - Century 3.0      4.0 :  6.0
>
>A result which I can now understand is 5.0 : 15.0 by Andreas Schwartmann
>against Deep Fritz. In all my test games against Deep Fritz T29 make Gandalf
>~50% with different time controls.
>
>Also more postive results against Nimzo 8, Hiarcs 7-32, Junior 6 and other
>programs with longer time controls.
>
>I think the playing streng is ~ 2.650 ELO and the same as the new Chess Tiger
>and Fritz with longer time controls. The games from Gandalf are very nice, in my
>opinion has Gandalf a great attack style and plays wonderful games.
>
>LCT II Test: New Rekord !
>GS 2930: New Rekord (solved 10 postions)
>BS 2830: New Shredder and oder Fritz 5.32 are better !
>
>This are results on faster hardware with longer time controls from different
>beta testers. The most with games with ponder !
>
>All information in Gandalf 4.32g beta test forum !
>
>Shredder must play with 2.950 ELO when I see your result :-)
>
>I like the new Shredder program, it seems that Shredder is clearly better as
>Shredder 4.0 in tactic positions.
>
>Now I think Gandalf 4.32g is not to 82% the best program with longer time
>controls, maybe 25% when I see how strong is the new Shredder 5.0 !
>
>Frank



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