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Subject: Re: Moderation: Re: nothing drives you like a C.....ën !

Author: Michael Cummings

Date: 17:32:59 12/05/00

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On December 05, 2000 at 10:31:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 05, 2000 at 00:53:27, Michael Cummings wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 2000 at 23:15:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 2000 at 08:52:12, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is a good case in point.  obviously 100% off-topic.  Nothing to do
>>>with computer chess.  not one suggestion to delete it.  I have no problem
>>>with such posts.  But it would seem that some do.  And some don't.  How is
>>>this different from the constitution discussion?  From the legal discussion?
>>>etc?
>>>
>>>
>>>Pardon me while I go take something for this headache.  Caused by trying to
>>>figure out just what "standard" everyone wants to see...
>>
>>I think this is fine, its a bit of harmless fun in what looks like to be a
>>heated discussion that pops up amoung the programmers every now and then.
>>
>>Its not like this was the start of a thread, just a bit of harmless fun in the
>>middle of one.
>>
>>If he had started a new thread with this topic then I would have given it the
>>flick. To me their is a difference as to when and how a post is posted as to
>>what effect it has.
>>
>>If you, me and the others had not commented on your post on how you feel this
>>should affect your moderation of posts, then I think there would of not been one
>>reply to his post.
>>
>>Delete the new posts that start of as being really off topic, but keep the ones
>>like his that are just a bit of harmless fun in the middle of one.
>
>
>The problem is that if I graded exams/projects that subjectively, I would not
>have a single student signing up for courses I teach.  And justifiably so.  As
>I recall, the US Constitution was a sub-thread.  If it wasn't, it could have
>been.  Does it make sense to chop it as a thread, keep it as a sub-thread?

But that is why you are moderator to then use your subjective view to keep this
place calm.

If someone starts a thread under the heading "US Elections" or "US making fools
out of themselves" and then went on to make fun of how long this election is
taking. Then that should be deleted, no matter even if there is right or
sensible information contained within it. Those types of posts are there to
start a fire, cause we know people like to word bash other countries.

But on the other hand if there is another thread which starts off computer chess
related, and in the 20 or so posts contained within that thread two are about
what type of car they drive, then that is fine as long as it does not get out of
hand and turn into a 50 post thread about what type of car they drive.

I just think it depends on what you and most people would regard as carrying an
off topic thread far enough. I would say once somethig goes past ten posts in a
thread and it is getting right off topic then some warning should be posted
within the thread, telling them to take it elsewhere.

Simply put all new posts should be computer chess related. If they are not, then
it depends on the content and what the thread is likely to turn into as to
whether you should delete it or give a warning from the start of the thread.

Thorstens post was always going to cause urguements. Cause no matter what, every
U.S person is going to see any comment on how they run the elections and what is
happening as U.S bashing.

It is just the way it is, cause the U.S media loves to say, "Leader of the Free
world", "US are the world leaders". So of course when people start to comment on
their country they will want to defend it, cause the U.S people have these words
continually shoved down their throat through the media and government.

Just like I dare anyone to say that Australia is not the best in the world in
Rugby Union, Rugby League, Womens Hockey, Netball, Cricket (just beat West
Indies to make it a NEW WORLD RECORD for 12 strait test match wins).
To me it is all a form of brainwashing. You hear enough times how good you are,
you start to believe it without question.

I think being a moderator you have to at least know how proud people are going
to be of their countries cause that is what they have been bought up to
learning. Ever wondered when communist countries used to have their people line
up to get bread and soap, and still these people loved their country thinking it
was the best way to live.

Just like if anyone had a go at Australia, whether right or wrong, I would
defend and tell them off :)

At least our 2000 Olympic games was declared the BEST GAMES EVER, which did have
the U.S a bit peeved, cause the IOC President only said in Atlanta "It has been
most exceptional" which means the Atlanta games is the only one of late that
never hand the honour of being called the best games ever. Which is pretty much
a huge slap in the face.

See even though my last comment is true and correct, how many people will attack
what I said even though it is the truth. Is it U.S bashing or just a true
statement of fact.



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