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Subject: Re: ECM errata

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 00:59:26 01/19/98

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Ok Bruce,  I can send you my positions.   You use an editor?
Here is a good way (maybe yours is better) to process them
which is painless:

given 2 normal epd sets:

  full_set.epd
  remove_set.epd

cat full_set.epd remove_set.epd | sort | uniq -u > final_set.epd

Now everyone could send you their positions as epd (which is the
most natural way I think) and you could instantly integrate
changes.   Can I just send you my 20 seo solved as EPD?  I'm
not going to build the table like you did.  (I don't use an
editor, I use: cat > filename :-)

- Don




On January 19, 1998 at 02:43:16, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On January 18, 1998 at 17:56:48, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>>I discovered 126 "flaky" problems after correcting a bug in
>>my flake test routine.  I recommend these all be taken out
>>because they imply ambiguous solutions.  The ones you guy's
>>find also should be taken out.
>
>No, this is not right.  You'll often have a case where the key looks
>good, shifts away for a while, then comes back for good, with a nice
>score.
>
>Heck, a move can appear to be a winning capture according to a SEE, but
>really be a losing capture because something is pinned, and as a
>consequence show up as a correct solution at ply 1 (since it is the
>first move searched), shift away later in ply 1, and come back when it's
>apparent that it is OK to go down material in this position.
>
>These cases can be handled by running the suite with decent amount of
>time, and not exiting until the end of the test.
>
>Just because a program evaluates a position as +2, then finds another +3
>move, when the original move is really a mate in 8, is no reason to
>discard the problem.  Just let it go longer and it should shift back,
>and you get a crappy solution time on this, and have something to fix,
>which is the point of this exercise.
>
>I don't think it is necessary to look for cooks yet, either.
>
>The first pass should simply delete problems that are solved by
>consensus.  It's probably a good idea to just delete everything that all
>three of you guys solve in under 20 seconds.
>
>If you want mine, here they are:
>
>8 11 14 16 18 19 28 29 35 43 49 51 54 60 63 66 68 71 75 76 78 80 81 82
>84 87 91 99 109 112 115 117 119 123 128 130 131 135 137 138 142 144 145
>146 147 148 153 155 159 160 161 162 180 182 186 187 190 191 196 198 201
>202 206 209 211 212 213 215 227 228 231 237 247 250 251 259 262 266 267
>270 271 274 277 280 286 287 289 291 292 297 300 302 310 311 312 313 315
>316 318 321 327 330 332 335 336 337 338 339 345 348 349 353 354 355 356
>357 358 360 361 366 367 370 371 373 375 376 377 379 390 394 395 396 397
>398 399 401 402 406 410 412 416 419 420 422 424 427 433 434 438 439 440
>443 445 447 459 460 463 464 465 467 468 469 470 472 474 475 476 482 485
>488 489 491 492 494 497 498 499 500 501 503 504 505 507 510 512 516 519
>525 533 539 544 551 553 557 560 561 562 565 566 569 579 580 582 587 589
>592 593 594 595 597 598 600 601 603 605 607 608 610 613 614 615 616 617
>621 623 624 627 629 634 635 636 637 640 644 646 647 648 652 653 654 659
>663 665 666 667 672 673 674 675 676 677 679 680 681 683 684 685 686 687
>688 690 691 692 693 696 697 698 699 701 706 709 712 713 714 715 716 718
>719 721 722 725 726 727 728 730 733 734 735 736 740 742 744 745 750 754
>755 756 761 762 764 766 767 769 770 771 772 773 774 776 779 780 785 789
>790 791 792 795 796 799 801 803 804 805 810 811 814 815 816 818 822 824
>825 826 827 829 830 831 832 833 834 836 837 841 842 843 845 846 852 853
>854 856 858 860 861 864 866 867 868 872 875 877 878 879
>
>These are all the problems at at least one version of my program has
>failed to solve in the past few months, at 20 seconds per position.
>There should be 363 of them.  If this is too many, I can generate the
>same list for my most recent versions.
>
>bruce



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