Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
Date: 11:52:56 12/06/00
Go up one level in this thread
On December 06, 2000 at 13:09:20, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Posted by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen on December 06, 2000 at 07:36:35: > >>Hi Ed, >> >>we had massive email exchange but I can try again to explain it to you again: >> >>We are NOT suing Marcus Kaestner for using "foreknowlegde" in London! > >I am not interested in the exact words of the prosecution. > >According Marcus: he has done an oath in which he said he hasn't >done any preparation and you are trying to sue him for breaking an >oath. We are not suing him for this! In this oath he also claimed that there are only small differences between Shredder 4.16, Shredder 4.24 and Shredder 5 without knowing Shredder 4.24 and Shredder 5. This seems also funny as he has already posted here after Shredder5 was out that 4.16, the version he has tested, is much better than Shredder5 and that Shredder5 will probalby drop in his rating list. He also said that he is not the publisher of ChessBits any more, so he is not responsible for the content of this magazine. He also claimed not being responsible for the content of his homepage in the internet. Still we are not suing him for that. >What is the difference? > >I don't see any difference between "foreknowledge" or "preparation". >The implication is the same. > > >>I have told you a hundred times to read his magazine where Marcus Kästner claims >>more than once to have had great influence on the opening choice of Rebel and >>Tiger in London. As this seems not possible for you I will translate a part of >>it for you here. If there is someone here who can speak both German and English >>and has access to this issue it might be useful to check my translation. >> >> >>Marcus Kästner in ChessBits 9/2000 page 13, it’s about the game Rebel >>Shredder: >> >>“Ed Schroeder wanted to play all or nothing that’s why he chose the Belgrade >>Gambit. As Rebel had the same bad line in his book as Tiger, I recommended a >>different line to Ed, that in my opinion can’t be lost for white, but had great >>winning chances. Even though Ed was very sceptical, that this line will be >>played (it was simply too good for white), I showed Ed until about move 20 what >>Shredder in my opinion would play in this line. And really, Shredder played >>until the end of book of Rebel exactly those moves, that I have shown to Ed only >>five minutes ago.” > >The sense of the story is true. I was surprised to see the position coming >on the board. > A few remarks: I clearly remember the initiative to play the >Belgrade was mine and mine alone. Marcus was against it as the Belgrade was >too risky. The Belgrade is not good for white when black defends well. It >was a bit gambling from my side and it turned out well. But he has shown you this line BEFORE the game, right? I don't know if this line is famous, popular or played by all chess programs. I know that I came out of book lost. Hey, if Marcus is writing this in his magazine please don't blame ME that I and other people are wondering how Marcus knew what Shredder was playing. >Furthermore Shredder was 2 moves longer in the book than Rebel. Exactly, because my book was bad in this line. >That's my story. > > >If you conclude Marcus broke his oath so be it. Sue him and I hope you lose. I AM NOT SUING HIM FOR THIS. >I sincerely believe Marcus did nothing wrong. I asked him to operate Tiger >and he did a fine job. Seeing him sued for that makes me angry as I feel >it as my obligation to take good care of people who have helped me. I AM NOT SUING HIM FOR THIS. >Marcus is just like many here in CCC a passionate computer chess lover >who loves ALL chess programs and due to circumstances got the chance >to operate one of his favorite chess programs in a WCCCM and I did not >put tape on his mouth to forbid him to communicate with me. 6-7 days we >only talked about computer chess and nothing to your disadvantage has >been said. > >Preparing the opening for each game was the job of Jeroen and me alone. >If Marcus gave his comments he had every right to do that as he has been >born with a tongue. The only thing he contributed was something that was >used in the Tiger-Nimzo game because something was wrong with the Tiger >book game and the trick worked quite well. > >Again: nothing has been said to your disadvantage. > > >Whatever your wars with Marcus he did a fine and honest job in London and >I hope the 2 of you are able to find your way out. > >But maybe he just remembers things just a bit different than I? > >Is that a reason to sue? AHHHHHRRRRGGHHHHHH! I AM NOT SUING HIM FOR THIS! >>So according to Marcus Kästner it was YOU who decided to play the Belgrade >>Gambit, but HE told you to play this line where Shredder came out of book lost. > >That is your own fault. Yes, certainly. I am not telling that he is responsible for my book, did I? >Don't blame and sue somebody else for that. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *** I AM NOT SUING HIM FOR THIS! *** >Remember that you were in book 2 moves longer than Rebel. see above >So much for preparation. > > > >>If this is not true and you are concerned about your good reputation you should >>maybe comment on the above statement of Marcus Kästner, telling us weather it is >>true or false. Also before you are blaming me of calling you a cheater >>indirectly you should check what information your operator is spreading. > >The implication is simple: Kastner gave me information about Shredder >and I used it. That is what people read here. That's what people read in his magazine. >And it is not true! Ed, I think I know you well and if you are telling me that you didn't take any advantage out of this story I believe you. After knowing where I got my information from, did I really count 1+1=3? I don't like being accused throwing mud at you just to destroy your reputation. Stefan > >Ed > > >>I also stated a hundred times that I believe that you did not cheat because I >>have a clear opinion who is not telling the truth and who is not in this whole >>story. >> >>Stefan >>
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.