Author: dario
Date: 13:42:20 12/06/00
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On December 06, 2000 at 12:40:49, Ian Osgood wrote: >On December 06, 2000 at 08:22:23, Osorio Meirelles wrote: > >> >> I have the Sapphire II and even though it is much slower than a PC, I believe >>that any top program playing at the same speed as the Sapphire, would beat it >>badly ( it looks like the Sapphire II lacks a lot of chess knowledge ). Since >>it's release, I have not seen anything better. >> >> What happened to chess computers ? Why don't they have the best chess playing >> algorithms as we have on chess playing software? ( I think if we had >> versions of Tiger, Rebel , Fritz or Junior on a pressure sensory chess >>computer, it would easily beat the sapphire II ). > >Easy: no market. Existing dedicated computers can beat 99% of chess players. >The hardcore 1% would want the best anyway, which means the fastest processor, >lots of RAM for hashtables, and lots of storage for endgame tables and opening >books (not to mention databases and other bells and whistles). This means PC's >+ chess software. > >The high end dedicated market died when desktop computers became a) faster than >33 MHz and b) affordable and c) pervasive. At that point, it became easier to >sell a $100 chess program that was stronger than a $300 or more dedicated chess >computer. > >There might be a "boutique" market for a strong luxury dedicated computer. The >TASC R30 tried to sell in this market at the end of the dedicated boom, but >wasn't very successful, possibly due to its boutique prices. This market is >partially met by auto-sensory boards which work with programs running on a PC. > >(BTW, there are dedicated computers stronger than the Sapphire. They are >programmed by Lang and Morsch, and are ancestors of the modern Fritz and >Genius). > >> I keep wanting to purchase a new chess computer, but I can't find any >>significant improvement over the old ones. Is the chess computer market >> being replaced by chess software ? > >At the cutting edge, yes. > >> Osorio > >Ian Let me say first of, that Osorio you make an interesting point and state some rigid facts, but if i could get Gandalf_432*, Fritz etc. engines on a pressure sensory chess cpu and say you just had to change a cardtridge like on the old nintendo's lol to change engine, even though they where weaker than the pc versions and assuming they where affordable, i would love to own one such. By the way do you have any idea or qualified guesses as to how strong you could make a pressure sensory chess (given todays strong engines mentioned above) cpu within the reasonable pricerange of say, 350 dollars??
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