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Subject: Re: gandalf needs fast machines, IMO at least 1000 Ghz

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 16:08:18 12/07/00

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On December 07, 2000 at 17:47:11, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Yes I agree with you but the main problem for Gandalf and Crafty is that it
>don't like AMD K6-2 450, it's only as fast as a P2-333 (in the SSDF-list).

That's an interesting observation, Bertil.

Generally, I'm not too fond of the "knowledgable programs can only compete on
fast hardware and at standard timecontrol" hypothesis. Gandalf can perform quite
well at blitz and standard on a semifast Athlon or PIII. Christian Koch has
documented that with his matches (except against Shredder).

Even though fast hardware is getting cheaper, I don't think it's a good idea to
make your program too dependent on hardware. The perfomance of Gandalf in your
tests shows that it isn't.

>Yes Gandalf is a really entertaining and active program!
>Steen has done the biggest improvements of all programmers in the last years!
>But it is now when he competes with the best it is really tough, to improve!

Unless you're able to stumble onto a novel concept, it's mostly a question of
grabbing ELO points here and there. Accumulating strength by tweaking, you might
call it, which seems to be the case when going from "f" to "g" version.

The next step would either be to try and speed Gandalf up or identifying and
adding important chess knowledge that might still be missing, which isn't an
easy task I imagine. Or preferably both. An expanded and tweaked book might also
be a way to gain points.

Mogens.



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