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Subject: Re: Censoring, paranoia and "sippenhaft"

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 04:57:07 12/08/00

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On December 08, 2000 at 06:25:37, Michael Cummings wrote:

>>>:-)))) in other forum (computer-schach and spiele forum) people
>>>get censored and deleted not because they insult or
>>>be impolite, but because their names come close to my name :-))))
>>>
>>>Torsten Schoop e.g. or
>>>Thomas Lagershausen.
>>>
>>>they have in common that Torsten = Thorsten and Czub sounds like Schoop.
>>>with Thomas Lagershausen its more funny, he only has 3 letters in common:
>>>THO !!
>>>thats enough for bertil eklund and other who behave paranoic to call him
>>>whatever and offend this poor guy.
>>>
>>>i think the next step is to put anybody in prison who has glasses,
>>>because i wear glasses too :-))
>>>
>>>Brave new world !
>>
>>Funny!
>>
>>All bulletin boards tend to take taken over by cliques, where the individuals
>>post a lot and tend to agree with each other, often by being 'opposed' to
>>another clique or person(s). When the same individuals have censorship power
>>they use it. Their ability to remove criticism strengthens their world view for
>>themselves, and, since all world views are subject to internal contradictions,
>>they effectively mask these contradictions, developing a
>>One-Flew-Over-The-Cuckoos-Nest lobotomised view of the world, in which they
>>carry out real stupidities in the name of their rationalised reasonableness.
>>Hence the deletion of "THO" posts!!!
>>
>>Take it as a compliment when you can get a clique to be that stupid!



>For goodness sake, this is a Computer Chess forum, writing anything about trying
>to change the ways of the world is pointless. Which is a reason why Thorsten
>gets into so much trouble. allot of what he writes about whether valid or not,
>whether true or false, nobody here cares about too much.

you don't read. i talked about another forum (computerchess forum)
where they discriminated and censored somebody because his name
began with THO !!!!!

this is very interesting. it shows how anonymous names have brought us.
paranoia everywhere.


>This is a computer chess forum, not a hippy, lets smoke some pot and change the
>world forum.

its not about smoking pot. i don't need drugs. i create them on my own
in my brain :-))
but it is, or at least the thread was about banning people and anons.
and my post is on topic in this context because i add an example
how far hexenverfolgung goes in the 21st century in the net.

>Even though Thorsten and others might write about some stuff that is true, it is
>simply not the place for allot of it, and then we get all this crap about being
>censored.

your post is IMO off-topic.
you talk about crap and pot.
read the title again. and consider that this is a computerchess forum.
not a drug shop.


> my impression is that Thorsten and many others have this
>label stuck on them and it is very hard to get rid of it.

to get rid of it ?
the label :-)))

aha.
ok. get "rid of it".
the best is a yellow label. on my left arm ?

>They talk about moderators playing politics, but it is usually the poster who is
>causing the trouble and making all the noise that is the one playing politics.

the thread was not about politics. it was about people discriminated by
moderators and attacked by anons, although the poster is an existing person
with a given email and adress, meanwhile the moderator and the anons
are not.

if people attack others, and the attackers are not named, have no adress
and no real name, it is IMO time to stand up.

otherwise it could end in something i know from german history very well.




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