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Subject: Re: Thinking of buying a new Computer? My thoughts...

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 14:56:20 12/08/00

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On December 08, 2000 at 12:20:50, Randy Schmidt wrote:

Nice Post
regards
Wayne

>I just read a lot of threads below about what is going to be the best computer
>to run chess software.  We have to consider the Athlon 1.2, Pent 3, and Pent 4,
>as well as what is coming down the pike.
>
>If I understand this correctly, current chess software relies heavily on integer
>arithmetic.  When one looks at benchmarks, the best direct comparison is with
>how Office products work.  I believe the benchmark is called Bapco or similar.
>You can look at Tom's Hardware for extremely recent benchmarks on all the
>current processors.
>
>**Buying today for Xmas?
>
>Go with the Athlon 1.2 and get at least 256 SDRAM-133.  I think that Micron and
>Gateway are good choices, although there is a company called Sys Performance
>that has gotten very good reviews.  This screamer will be faster for chess than
>any Pentium 4 and also any Pentium 3.  I am NOT considering dual processors in
>this posting.
>
>**I can wait a few months...
>
>Then wait for the new DDR ram to find its way to the general public.  Micron was
>the first on board with this, but all shipments have been halted, as there is a
>problem with the motherboard.  Expect shipments to begin in early Feb. At that
>time, 1.5-1.6 Athlons will be available as will P4 1.8-2.0s. At that time, I
>believe that the fastest chess solution will be the Athlon 1.55 with DDR ram.
>It will be faster for chess than the Pent 4 1.9.
>
>**I want to be the World Champion at Postal Chess....
>
>If you are playing now and you want to be on par with the others’ I have some
>BAD news for you.  There is a person who has 8 computers working on each of
>his/her games at all times.  So if you have one computer, and want to run each
>move overnight you will be overstepping the time control.  This is especially
>true for email sections.  Yes, you can probably buy the title, but it will be
>expensive!  If you have any doubt that people are NOT using computers, wake up.
>:-)  I have seen lots of revealing information lately on various boards around
>the web.  I have seen 1800 players with IM titles, 1000 rated players with
>master ratings, 2000 players that are among the top players in the US, etc.
>Please understand that in ICCF play, computers are not illegal.  Yes, you can
>meet players who started playing chess a couple of months ago, who will
>brutalize you with their chess programs.  Even if you use your own program and
>have FAST hardware, the result is still in a way, predetermined, as the
>computers are going to determine the results.  Depending on the position, any
>program can beat any other program.  You all follow the "matches" posted here,
>and know this is the case.
>
>In 3-5 years, when you are playing in the semi-finals of the World Championship,
>computer programs WILL be better than the best postal players.  If you doubt
>this, I ask you to recall the match, Kasparov vs. the World.  How many times did
>you read that Kasparov’s "team" spent some anxious moments running multiple
>computers trying to get winning chances against the masses?  Don't kid yourself,
>you know what was happening.  I know that many players think that a STRONG
>player will be at an advantage when they use a computer AND their own mind.
>That is true, but when you get into that mindset, what are you really doing?  Is
>that why you took up the game of chess in the first place? I obviously think
>that chess is dead in the realm of postal/email chess. If not right now, it will
>be in 3 years.  Why waste your time and money?
>Satisfaction in parroting a computer program on "my hardware is faster than your
>hardware" is not going to be something that I intend to waste my life doing!
>
>**I want to be the best player (cheater) on Yahoo, Gaming Zone, et al....
>
>Well my advice for you is to take a long look in the mirror...do you like what
>you see?  Do you really take pride in being a 'top dog' and all the naive others
>thinking you are some great player, thrilled that you will even talk with them?
>I had an experience about 5 months ago that totally opened my eyes.  I had
>"shouted" a request for a strong player to play against my Belgrade Gambit that
>I had been studying for some weeks.  I really wanted to test my knowledge and
>see if this opening really had a place in my repertoire. To my amazement, a very
>strong player agreed to take my UNRATED challenge.  I think he was rated around
>2500!  Well, damn if this guy didn't have a line well prepared for this Gambit.
>I thought, man...these IM's are ready for anything.  The game went right down
>the pike of a line I had just studied last night.
>Amazing...
>Well at about move 15, I was on my own and I dug in hard trying to come up with
>a plan when I did not have a good feel for the position.  About move 20, I was
>faced with a problem.  I could see no way to avoid a mate, and resigned.  I
>thanked my opponent for taking the time to teach me something about this opening
>and he told me that this is why the "Belgrade Gambit" is frowned upon. Well,
>that was interesting.  Right then and there, I decided that I was not going to
>play this kind of chess anymore. So what do you think happened?  I fired up my
>Fritz 6 program and went through the game.  I discovered to my horror, that in
>that 'forced mate' position, I had a simple draw that he HAD to take, otherwise
>he was lost.  My fear of his rating, coupled with my unfamiliarity with the
>opening, caused a severe brain freeze.  I simply missed a move I would see 100 %
>of the time in normal circumstances.  Well, maybe you saw this coming, but when
>I went through that game, I discovered that I played most moves that Fritz would
>have played except the last one!  But do you know what?  So did my opponent!!
>He was using Fritz to play his game.  I asked a human to play me a game and
>teach me something.  Instead, I got a person using a computer who cheated.  I
>could have made MUCH better use of my time just playing my own program.  This
>says nothing of my altered opening repertoire due to my incorrect perception of
>how well IM level players have their openings prepared.  Maybe this lesson I
>learned will strike a chord with you.
>My recommendation then for you is nothing.  I could not care less about those
>who intend to cheat.
>
>**I want to improve my game and understand chess better...
>
>To this person, I have a simple suggestion.  Is your current computer doing
>everything you need it to?  If yes, then stand pat.  The only reason to upgrade
>your computer should be when it stops running the software you need it to.  At
>that time, buy the most cutting edge thing you can afford and then you will
>lengthen the time before you need to spend your money again.
>
>**But I am rated 2000+ and I want something that will run my chess software
>faster...
>
>Then see the above categories.
>
>**To all...
>
>Enjoy this game, play it to get better, use the computer as a tool, not a master
>of you.  Buy all the software you want and enjoy the variety of programs and
>training software that exist.  Upgrade when you need to, not when something is
>faster.  Nobody cares if you have the fastest machine in your neighborhood.
>Actually, it might even work against you.  Remember how jealous people can be
>when you "one-up" them?



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