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Subject: Re: p4

Author: Bo Persson

Date: 10:31:37 12/09/00

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On December 08, 2000 at 16:17:15, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On December 08, 2000 at 14:36:53, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>
>>On December 08, 2000 at 14:06:25, John Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>is the p4 already out? I saw yesterday on the Dell site that they were selling
>>>p4 1.5 GHz computers, and so was gateway.  Are these just preorder or something?
>>
>>No, they're on the market since a week and a half or so.
>>The first testing already showed not that much difference on speed, especially
>>for gamers, against thunderbirds and PIII's.
>>
>>Don't know about chess programs though.
>>
>>Jeroen ;-}
>
>Hi!
>
>For todays chess-programs it seems to compare with Athlons or P3s with half the
>speed. A P4-1,4 is about egual to a P3 or Athlon of 700mhz.
>

Yes, but his could change quickly for newer programs. Look at Tom's Hardware for
his P4 - Final Recount where he reports about Intel Engineers getting the P4
performance from half the speed to about twice the speed of a PIII in some
graphics applications. Their main trick was to recompile with Intel's new P4
optimizing compiler!

The tweeking of a program might follow the pattern:

- get some ideas
- try one out - no improvement - skip it!
- try another - 4% faster - keep it!

After doing that for a while, your program is highly tuned to your own
hardware/compiler combination. We have seen this happen for the bit scanning
instructions BSF/BSR which were introduced as very fast for the 386/486
generation, but were terribly (terribly!!) slow for Pentium/Pentium MMX. On a
PII/PIII they are now ligthning fast again.

Just wait until some of the developers get their hands on a P4!



>Bertil


Bo Persson
bop@malmo.mail.telia.com



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