Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:38:27 12/10/00
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On December 10, 2000 at 00:04:41, Chessfun wrote: >On December 09, 2000 at 15:02:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 09, 2000 at 06:11:44, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On December 08, 2000 at 14:17:47, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>> >>>>On December 08, 2000 at 14:06:15, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 08, 2000 at 13:53:12, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This is not what I wanted to see happen after publishing our UCI engine <-> user >>>>>>interface protocol. Winboard hasn?t moved for years and now that our protocol is >>>>>>published for a week suddenly all the improvements we added in UCI are copied to >>>>>>winboard. I published UCI to have ONE clear and easy engine protocol. Well, UCI >>>>>>is free, but still I don?t really like that. >>>>> >>>>>Stefan, please not, that these changes were discussed in the chess engines >>>>>mailing list, before you published UCI. For my part, I made some suggestions, >>>>>(and some of those are part of the new draft Tim has shown), before I ever >>>>>heard of UCI. I would assume, that others didn't know of UCI, when they >>>>>thought about enhancements of the WB protocol. So the "suddenly one week >>>>>after ..." seems to be an accident. >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dieter >>>> >>>> >>>>I didn't know that as I am not on the list. >>>>I am sorry. >>>> >>>> Stefan >>> >>>I thought I once read that Tim planned no further changes to Winboard due to >>>time limitations and that others maybe would continue. I know there was talk >>>about adapting it to also run tournaments. >>> >>>But it would seem to me from that alone Stefan has a reasonable point. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >> >>I disagree mildly. IE winboard/xboard are _free_ programs that almost all >>the non-commercial authors are using for development, testing, and even playing >>on chess servers. Adopting a brand new protocol is not easy. And then the >>question is "how do we test?" By then writing a GUI or interface that uses >>that new protocol? That is a lot of work, which is why most of us still use >>winboard/xboard... to avoid doing that. >> >>Xboard has a few holes... but overall it works flawlessly on the chess servers, >>and as a GUI front-end for engines. I don't see any reason to toss it out... >>it has had major changes in the last year or two (animated piece movement, >>drag/drop graphics, etc...) I would assume it will continue to be developed. > >Don't get me wrong. Winboard is truly a great program, but I just thought Tim >was no longer going to upgrade it. > >Sarah. I'm not sure why. Remember that we have had a half-dozen new versions this year alone, as we are now up to 4.1...
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