Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 01:17:54 12/17/00
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On December 16, 2000 at 21:27:59, stuart taylor wrote:
>On December 14, 2000 at 20:43:46, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2000 at 20:11:01, stuart taylor wrote:
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>>>On December 13, 2000 at 12:53:11, Tom Glenn wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's a fun game . My old (10-12 yrs?) Fidelity Elite Avant Garde , which
>>>>used the Mach III engine vs Gambit Tiger running on 1.0 GHz thunderbird chip
>>>>EAG got 30 mins to make all moves , GT got 60 secs.......
>>>>A lot of carnage in this opening line , settles into a fairly even ?? game
>>>>by mid 30's , then GT crushes him in next 10-12 moves...... enjoy
>>>>Sorry about the spacings...... still trying to figure all this out ....
>>>
>>>This result is obvious to me. In fact I'm surprised it took 57 moves.
>>>I think that GT would win every single game in 1 min. even against that same
>>>opponent taking tournament timing over his.
>>>
>>>But we know all that! The problem is that nothing is tearing the top programs of
>>>the last 3-4 years to pieces in any way at all.
>>> I don't even know if there has been any tangible improvement at all, during
>>>last 3 years, besides the hardware.
>>>S.Taylor
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>>Of course there has been. I even wonder how you can ask this question...
>>
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>> Christophe
>
>By tangible improvement, I mean that in any game, you can see that the slightly
>older program just disintegrates, and can never really get anything good going,
>but that it gets overpowered, unless very lucky.
>
>S.Taylor
To be 70 elo points better than your opponent, you have to beat him by 60%.
That means that in 40% of the games you will... loose. But still you will be 70
elo points stronger. Because you win the other 60%.
I think 70 elo is a tangible improvement. But you will not see this improvement
in ANY game. In 40% of the games you will actually get the opposite impression.
If you disintegrate your opponent in ANY game, then you are more than 400 elo
points better than him.
If that's what you want to see, then I agree that there has not been a 400 elo
points improvements in the last 3 years.
Christophe
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