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Subject: Re: What you find out, WHEN you want to find out something...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 20:33:28 12/22/00

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On December 22, 2000 at 23:21:56, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 22, 2000 at 18:49:35, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>is sometimes different to the thesis you have in mind.
>>but - lets see here...
>>
>>[d]2r1k2r/5pp1/4p3/ppqpP3/4bQPP/1B6/PPP2R1R/2K5 b k -
>>
>>>a4 ! is very strong (1...a4 2.Qf7 Kd8 3. Qxg7 Qe3+ -+)  but Tiger (2 versions)
>>>doesn't see this move
>>
>>>How do perform other engines here ?
>>
>>ok -
>>i don't see why this is a selectivity problem.
>>
>>
>>first new paradigm:
>>
>>Gandalf likes a4, from the first seconds, in the moment
>>giving +2.68 in search 11.
>>1...a4 2.Bc4 O-O 3.Bf1 a3 4.Qd2 axb2+ 5.Kxb2 Bxc2 6.Ka1
>>
>>CSTal 2.03 prefers Rc7 too and needs to come into search
>>10 to see that 1...a4 is a "better" move.
>>
>>d10, 131s, c8c7 c2c3 a5a4 b3c2 e4c2 c1c2 a4a3 f4f3 a3b2
>>d10, 318s, >+1.96 a5a4 f4f7
>>d10, 391s, +2.23 a5a4 f4f7 e8d8 f7g7 c5e3 c1d1 e4f3
>>
>>now normal intelligent programs:
>>
>>hiarcs7.32 says -1.12 against white for 1...a4 and wants
>>to play a4 very early. I have seen it preferring a4 after 15",
>>i am not sure if earlier, but unimportant IMO.
>>after 2'40" it increases this score to -1.37 in search 10/29
>>against white with 1...a4 Bxd5 main line.
>>
>>diep:
>>finds a4 too after a while
>>
>>stupid programs:
>>
>>junior6a likes a4 too. no problem for it.
>>-1.22 against white after 26 seconds.
>>
>>fritz6a wants to play Rc7 and arround 15" changes to a4.
>>later score says -1.47.
>>
>>
>>so we learn: the key move is not found via score, it is mainly
>>found by search.
>
>If it is the case then Crafty could have no problem to avoid castling but it has
>problems to do it.
>It likes a4 but changes its mind later to 0-0.

I need to add that I mentioned Crafty because you consider it as a stupid
program.

I did not analyze 0-0 and it does not seem to me the correct move.

Hyatt said that 0-0 seems to him more safe than a4.
Dark thought has a different opinion.

I do not feel that the king is safe after 0-0 but I did not analyze it(I only
see some white pawns that may be dangerous in an attack and some piece behind
the pawns and this is the reason that I am afraid from an attack after 0-0).

Uri



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