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Subject: Re: Crafty 14.5 peformance on the Mac

Author: Carsten Kossendey

Date: 07:22:45 01/25/98

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On January 25, 1998 at 01:11:03, Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com)
wrote:

>On January 24, 1998 at 22:26:15, Carsten Kossendey wrote:
>
>>On January 24, 1998 at 20:11:39, Jay Scott wrote:
>>
>>>Then I tried MacChess 4.0. Searching to depth 7 took it less
>>>than one second and didn't give an accurate speed, so I went
>>>to depth 9. It reported ~250K nps. From my experience, that's
>>>at the lower end of its normal range--it's what you'd expect
>>>in this position.
>>>
>>>Considering chip performance alone, I'd expect crafty to run
>>>rather faster on a G3 Mac than on a PPro 200.
>
>The classic tradeoff in chess is - look at lots of positions
>superficially?
>Or look at fewer positions carefully?
>
>For instance, on my 7300/180:
>- HIARCS 6.0 is in        22,000 nps range,
>- Crafty 14.5 is in the   40,000 nps range,
>- MacChess is in the     150,000 nps range.
>
>However, in terms of strength,
>HIARCS > Crafty > MacChess   (IMHO).

I second that ... where would you rank Chessmaster?

>As I understand it, HIARCS and Crafty probably just have much more
>complex evaluation functions than MacChess.

This was in the part of my post which you snipped ;)

>It seems there is a large difference even between
>Crafty 12.9 and Crafty 14.5 here - not so much in nps,
>but in time to search to 9 ply - I'm getting a
>factor of three in time, with 14.5 taking longer.

[snip]

>Here's my canonical "a3" at depth 9 test output for Crafty 14.5:

[snip]

>              time: 51.80  cpu:100%  mat:0  n:2155330  nps:41608

[snip]

>Crafty 12.9, (which Carsten might have juiced up a little) under
>the same conditions, takes much less time to search to depth 9, but
>with fewer positions, and only slightly more nodes/second:

[snip]

>              time: 17.13  cpu:100%  mat:0  n:760250  nps:44381

I just tried the original DOS executable; it searches 849824 nodes,
so I guess I hacked something here ;)



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