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Subject: Re: 64-bit how far along are the top programs now

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:14:02 12/24/00

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On December 24, 2000 at 06:47:14, David Blackman wrote:

>64 bit chips have been widely available since about 1990. Crafty runs fine on
>them. A few of the other top programs also work on 64 bit CPUs but as far as i
>know the public can't get hold of copies.

excuse me which 64 bits processor which i can afford for not too much
money is going to outgun my dual PIII800?

Since 1990 i have been looking for an affordable 64 bits chip but
didn't find it. also 64 bits 21164 chip at 633Mhz with 8kb l1 cache
is of course getting completely outgunned by a PII processor at whatever
speed above or equal to 400Mhz.

Also i wonder how intel plans to clock 64 bits processors above 700Mhz
when they get introduced; this will be at a time that most likely 32
bits processors are clocked like 2 Ghz easily.

>When (or if) Itanium and Sledgehammer arrive, Crafty will work on them almost
>immediately. In fact the Itanium port has been done, and will no doubt be
>released as soon as you can get the chip. I haven't heard of anyone doing a
>Sledgehammer port, but it could be done easily, and it's possible someone might
>have done it quietly.

Crafty will profit most likely a lot from 64 bits processors, alpha always
has clearly proven that. But what OS is going to run for us at 64 bits?

Linux?

>For the commercial programs, i think about half of them will be available pretty
>quickly as soon as the chips start to sell to the public. The guys that wrote a
>lot of code in assembler will be sweating a bit though, and might be a bit
>slower to catch up.

Not if only linux runs on that chip... ...and for a windoze port i don't
know what time we can wait but if it gets released the msvc compiler for
it is going to eat gcc alive.

Greetings,
Vincent





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