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Subject: Re: Another Christmas Position

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 09:13:29 12/25/00

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On December 25, 2000 at 11:39:34, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 25, 2000 at 10:43:33, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>That is not hard.  Cited from Chest output:
>>
>>CHEST version 3.20, 14-May-2000
>>Options = -SLU
>>
>>W:  Ke6 Qb6 Pd4 Pd5 Pe4 Pe5 Pf4 Pf5 (8)
>>B:  Ka8 Qe3 Rd3 Rf3 Be2 Be1 Nc3 Ng3 Pb3 Pc5 Pc4 Pd6 Pf6 Pg5 Pg4 Ph3 (16)
>>FEN: k7/8/1Q1pKp2/2pPPPp1/2pPPPp1/1pnrqrnp/4b3/4b3 w - -
>>analysing (mate in 8 moves):
>>Solution (in 6 moves):
>>        Ke6 - d7

>>Total Time (virt) = 1.980 sec

>This position is more easy for chest than to other programs.

That is quite possibly true.  But then maybe not; I did not check.
Sometimes there are surprises.


>Here is a more hard illegal position(I found that 1.Qa3 is a winning move if you
>ignore the fact that the position is illegal and this position is the position
>after 1.Qa3 Kd8):
>
>[D]3k4/8/3pKp2/2pPPPp1/2pPPPp1/Qpnrqrnp/4b3/4b3 w - - 0 1
>
>White begins and win.
>
>I believe that Chest can also solve this position but it is going to take more
>time.
>
>A possible solution begins with
>1.Qa5+ Kc8 2.Qa8+ Kc7 3.Qc6+ Kb8 4.Kd7
>
>I guess that that the position is mate in 10 but I did not check it.
>
>Uri

Also not very hard.  It is mate in 8:

CHEST version 3.20, 14-May-2000
Options = -sSLU
Input file: 'i.ccc113c'
Reading job:
#       Posted by Uri Blass on December 25, 2000 at 11:39:34:
#       Subject: Re: Another Christmas Position
W:  Ke6 Qa3 Pd4 Pd5 Pe4 Pe5 Pf4 Pf5 (8)
B:  Kd8 Qe3 Rd3 Rf3 Be2 Be1 Nc3 Ng3 Pb3 Pc5 Pc4 Pd6 Pf6 Pg5 Pg4 Ph3 (16)
FEN: 3k4/8/3pKp2/2pPPPp1/2pPPPp1/Qpnrqrnp/4b3/4b3 w - -
analysing (mate in 10 moves):
#  1      0.00  0.87          1-         0
#  2      0.00  1.00          1-         0
#  3      0.01  0.99         57-         0
#  4      0.04  1.25        275-         0
#  5      0.19  1.74       1582-         0
#  6      0.76  2.24       6704-         0
#  7      3.21  2.61      29232-         0
#  8     12.75  2.85     121711-         0
Solution (in 8 moves):
        Qa3 - a8
refu  1: Qa5+    Kc8     [  7-]
solu         37: Ke8     [  1+]
refu  2: Qa8+    Kc7     [  6-]
solu         42: Kc7     [  7+]
refu  3: fxg5    Qxe4    [  7-]
solu         43: Ncxe4   [  7+]
refu  4: exd6    Qxe4+   [  7-]
refu  5: exf6    Qxe4+   [  8-]
refu  6: dxc5    Ncxe4   [  7-]
refu  7: Qxb3    cxb3    [  7-]
solu         38: Qxe4    [  1+]
refu  8: Qa4     Nxa4    [  7-]
solu         39: Qxe4    [  1+]
refu  9: Qa6     Qxe4    [  7-]
refu 10: Qa7     Kc8     [  7-]
solu          1: gxf4    [  1+]
solu          2: fxe5    [  1+]
solu          3: dxe5    [  1+]
solu          4: cxd4    [  1+]
solu          5: Ngxe4   [  1+]
solu          6: Nxf5    [  1+]
solu          7: Nxd5    [  1+]
solu          8: Ncxe4   [  1+]
solu          9: Rxf4    [  1+]
solu         10: Rxd4    [  1+]
solu         11: Qxe4    [  1+]
solu         12: Qxf4    [  1+]
solu         13: Qxd4    [  1+]
solu         14: h2      [  1+]
solu         15: b2      [  1+]
solu         16: Nf1     [  1+]
solu         17: Nh5     [  1+]
solu         18: Nh1     [  1+]
solu         19: Na4     [  1+]
solu         20: Na2     [  1+]
solu         21: Nb5     [  1+]
solu         22: Nb1     [  1+]
solu         23: Nd1     [  1+]
solu         24: Bf2     [  1+]
solu         25: Bd2     [  1+]
solu         26: Bd1     [  1+]
solu         27: Bf1     [  1+]
solu         28: Rf2     [  1+]
solu         29: Rf1     [  1+]
solu         30: Rd2     [  1+]
solu         31: Rd1     [  1+]
solu         32: Qd2     [  1+]
solu         33: Qc1     [  1+]
solu         34: Qf2     [  1+]
solu         35: Qg1     [  1+]
solu         36: Ke8     [  1+]
refu 11: Qa2     bxa2    [  7-]
refu 12: Qa1     Qxe4    [  7-]
refu 13: Qb4     cxb4    [  7-]
solu         40: Qxe4    [  1+]
refu 14: Qxc5    Qxe4    [  7-]
solu         41: Ncxe4   [  4+]
refu 15: Qb2     Qxe4    [  7-]
refu 16: Qc1     Qxe4    [  7-]
refu 17: Kxf6    Qxf4    [  7-]
refu 18: Kxd6    Ngxe4+  [  7-]
refu 19: Kf7     Qxe4    [  7-]
Refu tab:  19 refu,  43 solu
Time (virt) = 12.750 sec

 Qa8+ Kc7 Qc6+ Kb8 Kd7  Nxd5  exd5  Qxe5 fxe5 Ba5   Qc8+  Ka7   Kc6   =*=  Qb7#
                                              Bf2   Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   =*=  Qb8#
                                              Rc3   Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   =*=  Qb8#
                                              Rd2   Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   =*=  Qb8#
                                              b2    Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   Ba5  Qxa5#
                                                                      Rb3  Qa6#
                                                                      b1=Q Qa6#
                                                                      b1=R Qa6#
                                                                      -*-  Qb8#
                                              c3    Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   =*=  Qb8#
                                              Ka7   Kc8   =*=   Qb7#
                                              -*-   Qb6+  Ka8   Kc7   Ba5  Qxa5#
                                                                      -*-  Qb8#
                                    Ba5  Qc8+ Ka7   Kc6   =*=   Qb7#
                                    Bf2  Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   =*=   Qb8#
                                    Qd2  Qb6+ Ka8   Kc8   Qb4   Qa6#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                                    Rc3  Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   =*=   Qb8#
                                    Rd2  Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   =*=   Qb8#
                                    b2   Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   Ba5   Qxa5#
                                                          Rb3   Qa6#
                                                          b1=Q  Qa6#
                                                          b1=R  Qa6#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                                    c3   Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   =*=   Qb8#
                                    Ka7  Kc8  =*=   Qb7#
                                    -*-  Qb6+ Ka8   Kc7   Ba5   Qxa5#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                        Qxe4  Qb6+  Ka8  Kc8  Qxf5+ e6    Qxe6+ dxe6  =*=  Qb8#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Nxf5  Qb6+  Ka8  Kc7  Nb5+  Qxb5  Ba5+  Qxa5#
                                                          Ka7   Qb7#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                                              Nxd5+ exd5  Ba5   Qxa5#
                                                          -*-   Qb8#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Na2   Qb6+  Ka8  Kc7  Ba5   Qxa5#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Na4   Qc7+  Ka8  Kc6  =*=   Qb7#
                        Nb1   Qb6+  Ka8  Kc7  Ba5   Qxa5#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Nb5   Qxb5+ Ka7  Kc7  Ba5+  Qxa5#
                                              Ka8   Qb8#
                                              -*-   Qb7#
                                    Ka8  Kc7  Ba5+  Qxa5#
                                              Ka7   Qb7#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Ncxe4 Qb6+  Ka8  Kc7  Ba5   Qxa5#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Nd1   Qb6+  Ka8  Kc7  Ba5   Qxa5#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Qxd4  Qb6+  Ka8  Kc8  =*=   Qb8#
                        b2    Qb6+  Ka8  Kc8  b1=Q  Qa6#
                                              b1=R  Qa6#
                                              -*-   Qb8#
                        Ka7   Kc8   =*=  Qb7#
                        -*-   Qb6+  Ka8  Kc6  =*=   Qb7#
               Kd8 Qd7#

end of solution tree (no duals except at top)
Total Time (virt) = 12.920 sec

Generally, in bizarre positions Chest appears to shines :-)

Heiner



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