Author: Leo Dijksman
Date: 08:51:27 12/27/00
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On December 27, 2000 at 11:28:54, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>On December 27, 2000 at 11:11:37, Leo Dijksman wrote:
>
>>On December 27, 2000 at 10:34:07, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2000 at 09:35:52, Leo Dijksman wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 26, 2000 at 18:06:02, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 26, 2000 at 16:53:12, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 26, 2000 at 12:09:33, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>new in my CCE tourney are ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>01. CB The Crazy Bishop 0046 (super results in the first 2 rounds).
>>>>>>>02. CB Nimzo 8.0 (little problems in the first 2 rounds).
>>>>>>> 4.0 : 4.0 against Crafty 17.14
>>>>>>> 5.0 : 3.0 against Comet B.27
>>>>>>>03. CB Deep Fritz T29c
>>>>>>> At the moment against Fritz 6a (standing so far 1:0 for Fritz 6a, next
>>>>>>> games over night) !
>>>>>>>04. WB LambChop 10.5
>>>>>>> 4.0 : 4.0 against the very strong Amy 0.7 !
>>>>>>>05. WB Insomniac 0.69a
>>>>>>> 6.5 : 1.5 against AnMon 5.09 !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think Insomniac is the strongest amateur program but we will see. I believe
>>>>>>>Insomniac plays around ~ 2525 ELO and is stronger than Goliath, SOS and Crafty.
>>>>>>>I think Nimzo Level !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More information under:
>>>>>>>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach/cbase/cce_main.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best
>>>>>>>Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why don't you have another Tournament Section C where Gandalf 4.32 G play
>>>>>>against all others programs, I notice that you did not include Gandalf 4.32 Vs
>>>>>>Deep Fritz or Nimzo 8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>
>>>>>I play with Chess-Base native engines in tourney "A" and with WinBoard Engines
>>>>>in tourney "B". I will not make changes in the organisation. Furthermore, it is
>>>>>to many work to play with WB engines in tourney "A" ! I mean my tournament
>>>>>running around one year and this is enough !
>>>>>
>>>>>Best
>>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>Do this mean that you on top of the page shows the ratings of Frits, Gandalf and
>>>>Junior while Gandalf has never played against the other top programs??
>>>>
>>>>Best wishes, Leo.
>>>
>>>I mean that why I know a lot of results against other top programs. You can
>>>search more information in the CCE beta test forum or in my News Ticker.
>>>
>>>CCE Beta Test forum:
>>>http://f22.parsimony.net/forum41668/
>>>
>>>News Ticker:
>>>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/news.htm
>>>
>>>(here a lot of informations in older News Ticker pages).
>>>
>>>News Ticker Overview under:
>>>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/news_top.htm
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>
>>Hi Frank,
>> i mean that the rating that appears on top of the page are from 2 different
>>tournaments (CCE-A and CCE-B), so it looks like Gandalf is the nr.2 but actually
>>it has not played any game against the other top programs that counts for that
>>ratinglist, or do i see it totally wrong?
>>I do not mean that Gandalf is not strong or so (i have Gandalf myself and it is
>>strong!), only i think its not fair to mix up 2 different ratinglists thisway
>>(but thats my opinion offcourse).
>>Sorry for my bad english, Leo.
>
>Hi,
>
>oh I understand you !
>Yes a little problem. But in tourney A and B plays 5 same progams in WB version
>and CB version. I think end of the tourney is the rating list to 90% perfect.
>When I understand the calculations system right is the good enough when each
>program plays against each programs. Good enough when I have 5 same programs in
>tourney a and b.
>
>When I added games between Gandalf against Junior, Hiarcs and Fritz in my rating
>list (I make the experiment last week) I have the same ELOs. So I think the list
>is now good but at the moment I have not enough games for all programs which
>started in my tourney.
>
>Best
>Frank
Thanks Frank,
now i understand your system better, how many games do you think that all
Engines must have played each other before a ratinglist is good enough?
I have now about 60 engines that runs under the chessbase gui, i want to let
them play 16 games matches against each other with a time control of 40/40(2x)+1
hour, do you think thats enough or should it be 24 game matches?
Best wishes, Leo.
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