Author: Peter Berger
Date: 13:01:00 12/28/00
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On December 28, 2000 at 02:08:57, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 28, 2000 at 01:56:56, Sam Slutzky wrote: > >>On December 27, 2000 at 22:06:52, Pete Galati wrote: >> >>> >>>True, but cheating using a computer would only get you so far, then you'd fall >>>flat on your face once you sat down at a _real_ Chess board. I guarantee you >>>that someone who cheated with a computer in this initial compitition wouldn't >>>have even the most remote chance of becoming The World Chess Champion. >>> >>>Pete >> >>This is true, but such cheating would also have the effect of not allowing any >>"real" players from the Internet a chance at the competition. >> >>Sam > >If the real players from the internet can beat the best chess programs they have >chances. > >Uri That really was said in a nice way ;-) Me reading was like : " WHAT ???? HAVE THEY GONE COMPLETELY MAD ???" I have no idea what those guys have smoked before making this strange decision . Most probably none of them has _ever_ played games in an online chess community . I think Stuart is right : this really is a challenge _many_ ordinary chessplayers will take , like : " Once in a lifetime I play for the title !" and I also think Pete Galati is right : it is kind of a perfect ad for their gaming site that I never before have even heard of . But my title was chosen by purpose : if they really do it this way it is nothing more than a perfect boost for chessprogram sales that _will_ influence development in computerchess . I liked Aaron's comment : "I'm sure many players would love to turn up and trade pawns with the Elite, even if FIDE didn't pay anything.. I'm still waiting to see a 1200 player turn up and face Shirov in round 1..LOL.. " Right at this moment while I am typing I am definitely sure there are at least 200 players online at some chess site cheating with their chessprograms claiming they are some strong human player . And for what prize ? A worthless online rating or a place on some ladder ranking system or some fake "respect" . Now we have a new one : a free place in the next World championship and a chance to play some games against the best of the best . "Hey daddy , can you get me the new CM8000 and this new Athlon computer ? My friends all already got it and I want to participate in this FIDE thing !" _This_ btw is the thing that really annoys me most : those more or less innocent ones who will waste their times this way . Those can be caught though , agreed . But what about the Allwerman guys ( aka the really clever cheaters ) ? And what about all those honest men like Stuart who find out in their post-mortem they were in fact playing against Deep Fritz ? Will all of them be strong enough to just take it as a man/woman and not take revenge next game ? When it is about being caught , something else : this is not a privately run event where you can simply ban someone who you suspect : this is an official worldwide official sports tournament ; and if you ban someone _you_ are the one who has to prove ; I wouldn't be too surprised if trying to ban people even could end at court . I could go on like that for quite some time adding more arguments I think are reasonable but this is futile . I simply wonder what is the next thing the old men will work out ... pete
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