Author: Walter Koroljow
Date: 18:06:38 12/28/00
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On December 28, 2000 at 16:01:00, Peter Berger wrote: >On December 28, 2000 at 02:08:57, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 28, 2000 at 01:56:56, Sam Slutzky wrote: >> >>>On December 27, 2000 at 22:06:52, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>True, but cheating using a computer would only get you so far, then you'd fall >>>>flat on your face once you sat down at a _real_ Chess board. I guarantee you >>>>that someone who cheated with a computer in this initial compitition wouldn't >>>>have even the most remote chance of becoming The World Chess Champion. >>>> >>>>Pete >>> >>>This is true, but such cheating would also have the effect of not allowing any >>>"real" players from the Internet a chance at the competition. >>> >>>Sam >> >>If the real players from the internet can beat the best chess programs they have >>chances. >> >>Uri > > >That really was said in a nice way ;-) > >Me reading was like : " WHAT ???? HAVE THEY GONE COMPLETELY MAD ???" > >I have no idea what those guys have smoked before making this strange decision . > >Most probably none of them has _ever_ played games in an online chess community >. > >I think Stuart is right : this really is a challenge _many_ ordinary >chessplayers will take , like : " Once in a lifetime I play for the title !" and >I also think Pete Galati is right : it is kind of a perfect ad for their gaming >site that I never before have even heard of . > >But my title was chosen by purpose : if they really do it this way it is nothing >more than a perfect boost for chessprogram sales that _will_ influence >development in computerchess . > >I liked Aaron's comment : > >"I'm sure many players would love to turn up and trade pawns with the Elite, >even >if FIDE didn't pay anything.. > >I'm still waiting to see a 1200 player turn up and face Shirov in round 1..LOL.. >" > >Right at this moment while I am typing I am definitely sure there are at least >200 players online at some chess site cheating with their chessprograms claiming >they are some strong human player . > >And for what prize ? A worthless online rating or a place on some ladder ranking >system or some fake "respect" . > >Now we have a new one : a free place in the next World championship and a chance >to play some games against the best of the best . > >"Hey daddy , can you get me the new CM8000 and this new Athlon computer ? My >friends all already got it and I want to participate in this FIDE thing !" > >_This_ btw is the thing that really annoys me most : those more or less innocent >ones who will waste their times this way . > >Those can be caught though , agreed . > >But what about the Allwerman guys ( aka the really clever cheaters ) ? > >And what about all those honest men like Stuart who find out in their >post-mortem they were in fact playing against Deep Fritz ? Will all of them be >strong enough to just take it as a man/woman and not take revenge next game ? > >When it is about being caught , something else : this is not a privately run >event where you can simply ban someone who you suspect : this is an official >worldwide official sports tournament ; and if you ban someone _you_ are the one >who has to prove ; I wouldn't be too surprised if trying to ban people even >could end at court . > >I could go on like that for quite some time adding more arguments I think are >reasonable but this is futile . > >I simply wonder what is the next thing the old men will work out ... > >pete What do you mean official? FIDE is just a bunch of worthless bureaucrats who have no legal standing anywhere! I could also go on ... forever... Cheers, Walter
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