Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 19:34:16 12/28/00
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On December 28, 2000 at 21:47:04, Paul Doire wrote: >On December 28, 2000 at 21:30:56, Laurence Chen wrote: > >>On December 28, 2000 at 20:56:54, Paul Doire wrote: >> >>>You are awaiting a patch for the Tigers,when that comes will you include >>>CM8000 also in your testing? You included CM6000 in the past,and CM8000 is >>>certainly worthy of testing and including in your list. >>>Your list will then have all contenders Fritz,Tigers,Century3,Shredder and the >>>chess public will have a complete list, not a fragmented list of some programs. >>> >>>This would be helpful in buying decisions,when a list is not all inclusive >>>and we must research ourselves based on posts to boards like this, it can be >>>difficult to navigate through all the facts vs nonsense. >>> >>>I respect your list and would only request that it be ALL inclusive of the >>>top programs. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Paul >>To test CM8000 or any version of CM is a very ardous task without AUTO232 or >>some kind of network connection. I wish that the team of CM would include some >>type of network connection or AUTO232, I understand that auto232 is not perfect, >>but what else is there? I don't blame SSDF if they refuse to test CM, I think >>they should boycott testing any chess engine which forces the tester to do the >>test manually. It is a very painful job because some of us have jobs and other >>things to do besides sitting in front of 2 computers and manually entering the >>moves. I boycott buying any version of CM until the day some type of auto232 or >>network version is implemented. >>Regards, >>Laurence > >I appreciate your opinion but this is directed to the SSDF, not you, as I stated >before they did test CM6000 without autoplayer,didn't they??? >Then the same should hold true for this version also!!It is a substantial new >version!! > >All the newest programs have their own set of flaws. But does this mean they >should not be tested , of course not!!! Programs that cannot be autoplayed require an enormous amount of effort. If I were the SSDF team members, I would not waste my time with any of them. I think it is astonishing that they bothered to test CM6000, and something for which the CM6000 fans should be extremely grateful. >I understand waiting for updates, etc. That is not the point . >Please include ALL or the SSDF list is non-conclusive. Of course. The list will never be anything close to conclusive. Some programs expressly forbid inclusion in the list. There are well over 70 different freely available Winboard engines. Add in the Millenium System engines, ChessBase engines, and all the other commercial engines and you have quite a pile. However, you are free to start your own testing organization at any time. If you conduct your experiments with scientific accuracy you could create a new standard. However, don't underestimate the work this would involve. It's enormous.
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