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Subject: Re: Attn:SSDF Will you include CM8000 in the next tests!!!

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 19:41:55 12/28/00

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On December 28, 2000 at 21:47:04, Paul Doire wrote:

>On December 28, 2000 at 21:30:56, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2000 at 20:56:54, Paul Doire wrote:
>>
>>>You are awaiting a patch for the Tigers,when that comes will you include
>>>CM8000 also in your testing? You included CM6000 in the past,and CM8000 is
>>>certainly worthy of testing and including in your list.
>>>Your list will then have all contenders Fritz,Tigers,Century3,Shredder and the
>>>chess public will have a complete list, not a fragmented list of some programs.
>>>
>>>This would be helpful in buying decisions,when a list is not all inclusive
>>>and we must research ourselves based on posts to boards like this, it can be
>>>difficult to navigate through all the facts vs nonsense.
>>>
>>>I respect your list and would only request that it be ALL inclusive of the
>>>top programs.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Paul
>>To test CM8000 or any version of CM is a very ardous task without AUTO232 or
>>some kind of network connection.  I wish that the team of CM would include some
>>type of network connection or AUTO232, I understand that auto232 is not perfect,
>>but what else is there?  I don't blame SSDF if they refuse to test CM, I think
>>they should boycott testing any chess engine which forces the tester to do the
>>test manually.  It is a very painful job because some of us have jobs and other
>>things to do besides sitting in front of 2 computers and manually entering the
>>moves.  I boycott buying any version of CM until the day some type of auto232 or
>>network version is implemented.
>>Regards,
>>Laurence
>
>I appreciate your opinion but this is directed to the SSDF, not you, as I stated
>before they did test CM6000 without autoplayer,didn't they???
>Then the same should hold true for this version also!!It is a substantial new
>version!!
>
>All the newest programs have their own set of flaws. But does this mean they
>should not be tested , of course not!!!
>I understand waiting for updates, etc. That is not the point .
>Please include ALL or the SSDF list is non-conclusive.
>Paul
Do you think that the SSDF testers are people who sits at the computer day in
and day out, or night in and night out?  They are people like you and I who must
have a job besides testing chess engines.  How else can they do that? They don't
get any money to do this type of work.  It cost money to test two chess engines,
you don't believe me.  Who pays for the electric bill?  Computers consume a lot
of power.  I praise these testers for their love and devotion to run this ardous
test.  For me it is much better to make their life easier not to hidden their
lives. These people are volunteers, and if you think that SSDF should test CM,
then why don't you volunteer to do it, then you will see why testing CM without
a type of Auto232 is impractical.  There's more in life then testing chess
engines. My two pennies worth.
Regards,
Laurence




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