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Subject: Re: Avoid move Nxf3 test position

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 00:28:05 12/29/00

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On December 29, 2000 at 02:43:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 28, 2000 at 21:45:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2000 at 18:40:30, Howard Exner wrote:
>>
>>>On December 27, 2000 at 22:28:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Strange.  I tried this and I _never_ get Nxf3 at all. I get h3 at early
>>>>plies, then Kf6, until it changes to Kf5 for good...  Interesting problem
>>>>of course.  And I have seen this happen to both crafty and its opponents
>>>>from time to time...
>>>
>>>Even though there are 8 pieces on the board it looks like the table base
>>>endings come into play. Vincent's program discovers a mate in 30 or something.
>>>Century 3 plays Kf5 at 8:42 on an Athlon 900.
>>>
>>>Most likely all programs will eventually incorporate the endgame table bases.
>>>Otherwise good and solid middlegame play may not be rewarded on those occasions
>>>were endgame bases detect the outcome of a game long before it's non-base
>>>counterpart.
>>
>>
>>I ran this on a machine with no tablebases of any kind...
>>
>>Crafty never considers Nxf3...
>
>
>It is clear that it is because of some change in the evaluation because
>Crafty15.19 does considers Nf3 as best in the first 10 plies

I'm curious what Crafty plays after the moves Kf5 Ra4. Must still avoid Nxf3
and play Rxf3 instead.



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