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Subject: Re: where is gambit-tiger1.0 or rebel-tiger13 ?!

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:48:50 12/29/00

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On December 28, 2000 at 20:56:11, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 28, 2000 at 18:30:18, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2000 at 18:03:32, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>I suggest you check with both Christophe and the SSDF before posting more of
>>>your usual anti-SSDF crap. Then you may find out why Gambit Tiger wasn't tested.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>look. its easy enrique.
>>
>>each time the ssdf comes out, especially at christmas time,
>>they do not ! (in words: NOT) present the strongest program
>>when this is a non chessbase-program.
>>
>>they have all kind of reasons, excuses.
>>and they promise that MAYBE the next list...
>>
>>this pattern is each year.
>>
>>it would be a surprise if this would NOT be the case one day.
>>but - it never happens.
>>
>>you call it crap.
>>i call it pre-selection of data to tune statistics.
>>
>>in almost any scientific field you have those kind of "fine-tuning".
>>it was invented to keep power in place and shape.
>>the ones who need the "right" statistics fine-tune the data,
>>to proof what they KNOW before they count together.
>
>
>
>No, you are wrong. And you should definitely have asked me before.
>
>I have asked the SSDF to delay the test of Tiger 13 because I want first to fix
>a problem in the program: Tiger too easily lets the opponent replay the same
>lost game.
>
>It happened last year when Tiger 12 lost 12 times the same opening against
>Junior6.
>
>The book learning algorithm hasn't been totally fixed and I do not want the same
>problem to happen again. This problem will probably never hurt the people who
>have bought the program, because most of the users do not play long series of
>autoplayed matches. But it is definitely going to show up in the (long) SSDF
>matches.
>
>So I have asked Thoralf to delay the test, for this reason, and he kindly
>accepted.
>
>The SSDF is in my opinion totally independant of any software company.
>
>And one thing you should remember: last year, just before Christmas, Tiger 12
>topped the SSDF list for the first time. One month before Christmas. So you
>could as well forget your theory about a Christmas ChessBase/SSDF conspiracy.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


Add the fact SSDF tested Tiger DOS, topping the list without being
available to the public. Nobody complained. I remember a similar case :)

Ed




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