Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 00:48:50 12/29/00
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On December 28, 2000 at 20:56:11, Christophe Theron wrote: >On December 28, 2000 at 18:30:18, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>On December 28, 2000 at 18:03:32, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>I suggest you check with both Christophe and the SSDF before posting more of >>>your usual anti-SSDF crap. Then you may find out why Gambit Tiger wasn't tested. >>> >>>Enrique >> >>look. its easy enrique. >> >>each time the ssdf comes out, especially at christmas time, >>they do not ! (in words: NOT) present the strongest program >>when this is a non chessbase-program. >> >>they have all kind of reasons, excuses. >>and they promise that MAYBE the next list... >> >>this pattern is each year. >> >>it would be a surprise if this would NOT be the case one day. >>but - it never happens. >> >>you call it crap. >>i call it pre-selection of data to tune statistics. >> >>in almost any scientific field you have those kind of "fine-tuning". >>it was invented to keep power in place and shape. >>the ones who need the "right" statistics fine-tune the data, >>to proof what they KNOW before they count together. > > > >No, you are wrong. And you should definitely have asked me before. > >I have asked the SSDF to delay the test of Tiger 13 because I want first to fix >a problem in the program: Tiger too easily lets the opponent replay the same >lost game. > >It happened last year when Tiger 12 lost 12 times the same opening against >Junior6. > >The book learning algorithm hasn't been totally fixed and I do not want the same >problem to happen again. This problem will probably never hurt the people who >have bought the program, because most of the users do not play long series of >autoplayed matches. But it is definitely going to show up in the (long) SSDF >matches. > >So I have asked Thoralf to delay the test, for this reason, and he kindly >accepted. > >The SSDF is in my opinion totally independant of any software company. > >And one thing you should remember: last year, just before Christmas, Tiger 12 >topped the SSDF list for the first time. One month before Christmas. So you >could as well forget your theory about a Christmas ChessBase/SSDF conspiracy. > > > > Christophe Add the fact SSDF tested Tiger DOS, topping the list without being available to the public. Nobody complained. I remember a similar case :) Ed
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