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Subject: Re: Changing alpha / beta based upon hash?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:11:30 01/01/01

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On January 01, 2001 at 04:37:39, Steve Maughan wrote:

>Heiner,
>
>>>Yes.  This is why when one raises alpha one must also cut the PV.
>>
>>I do not understand the "cutting the PV" part.  Do you mean such a PV ends
>>with a "<HT>" TT-hit instead of more moves?
>
>Yes!


This is easy to test.  Put a phoney value into the PV (ie -1) and see if this
value _ever_ gets backed up to the root in a PV. The answer is "no".  You can't
back up a PV just by raising alpha or lowering beta.  If you can, you have a
serious bug.



>
>>Maybe I should reread the corresponding part in Ernst's excellent book.
>>Maybe you should also do that ;-)
>
>I didn't know he covered it.  I'll certainly give it a read.
>
>>>  What is
>>>really happening is the deeper search info is being graphted onto the search.
>>
>>Graphted?  Typo?
>
>Oops I mean 'grafted' (as in when a plant is grafted onto another)
>
>>I mean:  Do you really not use the value from a TT entry if the depth
>>stored in the TT entry is larger than the depth demanded by the search?
>
>At the moment I'm raising alpha based upon the deeper search but not lowering
>beta.
>
>>>I think I'm finally started to get my head rpound this issue - it's being
>>>vexing me for days!!
>>
>>I know that feeling!  Do not give up!
>>Draw some pictures.  Construct a minimal demo case.  etc
>
>Indeed I will.
>
>>Most of the time finally I find out that things are quite simple, and the
>>complex part was a misunderstanding  ;-)
>>
>>Cheers, and a happy new year!  (Here around it is already 2:10am)
>
>Happy New Year to you too!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve



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