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Subject: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:07:27 01/02/01

I read in the Rebel site that black had an immediate win by 33...Qd4
I did not see an immediate win for black

Can someone demonstrate the immediate win?


[D]6k1/1p3p1p/2p2Qp1/4p3/2q1Pn2/r1N1R3/2P2PPP/3B2K1 b - - 0 1

33...Qd4 gives black a clear advantage but programs do not see a clear win for
black.

White has some options(34.h4 Rxc3 35.Kh2 is one of them) and I could not
convince my programs that they are losing in a few moves.

Uri

Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Howard Exner 13:29:54 01/02/01
- Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Jeroen van Dorp 15:41:33 01/02/01
  - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Uri Blass 19:59:40 01/02/01
    - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) john c cook 02:09:27 01/03/01
    - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Jeroen van Dorp 23:25:59 01/02/01
      - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Jeroen van Dorp 02:33:42 01/03/01
        
        Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Howard Exner 09:22:24 01/03/01
        
        Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Uri Blass 03:07:37 01/03/01
        
        Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Jeroen van Dorp 12:09:48 01/03/01
  - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Howard Exner 19:11:46 01/02/01
    - Re: Rebel-Van Der Weil(I cannot see a clear win by 33...Qd4) Jeroen van Dorp 23:31:19 01/02/01
Re: Rebel-Van Der Wiel(I apologize for replacing i and e)(nt) Uri Blass 11:10:12 01/02/01

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