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Subject: Re: Intelligence of men and machines

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 18:27:11 01/28/98

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I couldn't agree with you more Jay.  After something is achieved
we lose respect for it and then re-define it as trickery.  At some
point we will have to declare our own brains as just being
a clever collection of hacks and tricks.

- Don



On January 28, 1998 at 19:44:41, Jay Scott wrote:

>On January 28, 1998 at 15:36:14, Peter Klausler wrote:
>>IMHO, I don't consider a gameplaying computer program to
>>be intelligent.  But I would consider a program that can
>>*develop* a winning gameplaying program from scratch to
>>be intelligent!
>
>This is a classic opinion: whatever has been done is not
>intelligence, whatever is one level harder and can't be done
>yet is intelligence. In 1960 most people would have agreed
>that a master-strength chess program is intelligent, because
>they couldn't imagine other way to do such a thing. You
>are in the same boat, a little farther down the stream.
>
>As it happens, I am writing (trying to write) such a
>program. Here's my prediction, in case I succeed: When you
>find out how it works and see what it can and can't do,
>you will change your mind and decide that it's not intelligent
>after all. It will be able to write some kinds of game programs
>and closely related programs, and (if I'm successful) improve
>them until they're strong. It will not be able to talk, or
>learn to read, or see, or plan ahead.
>
>  Jay



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