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Subject: Re: Anti-CT13 book?

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 22:51:47 01/03/01

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On January 03, 2001 at 13:22:44, Fabio Barrettone wrote:

>On January 03, 2001 at 12:52:39, John Dahlem wrote:
>
>>I saw on ICC a player who used Deep Fritz and seemed to only play Chess Tiger's.
>> He had a custom book his first move was often 1.h4?, yet he won almost every
>>game he played. I think he had a 1100 MHz AMD and the Tigers I saw him playing
>>had an 800 mhz P3. Was he winning so much because of hardware, software, the
>>opening book, or a combination of the three?
>
>Well, I think this is just a form of cheat. Tiger doesn't have a learning book
>function working, Fritz is almost "brute force" in this field. You will see
>almost the same games over and over. I really don't know why people do this, but
>I really don't know why people cheats using computers without a (c) on servers
>either, so...

Book learning has nothing to do with it.  How Tiger plays in a given position
outside of book moves does, however.  It is hardly cheating to put Tiger in
these positions.

>I really hope that the patch promised by Christophe will resolve
>this part of problem, at last in part. In any case, however, I think it will be
>always possible to play lines against a computer opponent to make your program
>always win against it. As you see in fact the player you observed played almost
>always against Tiger. You prepare some lines for a target and you begin to play
>always that variations. Also if your program will learn it will never change his
>play so much as to win that line, this is what I've seen till now in my
>experiments, but maybe this is possible; if someone of the programmers would
>illuminate me on this point I would be grateful.
>
>For the hardware, I don't think the difference is so much as to make Tiger lose
>extensively.
>
>Naturally the same could be applied to Fritz (as a target) as well.
>
Bring it on. :)

-elc.



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