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Subject: Re: SSDF list?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 07:41:07 02/01/98

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>      THE SSDF RATING LIST 1998-01-31   58989 games played by  179
>computers
>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won
> Oppo
>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---
> ----
>   1 Rebel 9.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz           2533   35   -33   462   69%
> 2397

As I said, Rebel9 will lead the ssdf-list :-))))


>   2 Hiarcs 6.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz          2532   36   -34   409   63%
> 2439
>   3 Nimzo '98 Pentium MMX 200 MHz           2530   47   -44   245   64%
> 2426

Also very interesting. I think Nimzo98 is very nice and I have sent the
team my compliments. It plays even more positional than fritz5.



>   4 MChess Pro 6.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz      2519   36   -34   416   63%
> 2422
>   5 MChess Pro 7.1 Pentium MMX 200 MHz      2516   35   -34   415   62%
> 2430

I hope Marty got the money from my update :-)))

>   6 Rebel 8.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz           2511   43   -41   293   66%
> 2398
>   7 Shredder 2.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz        2503   66   -65   116   53%
> 2485

So now we understand why Shredder ranked that good in Paris !!
BTW:
Where is Virtual2 ??

>  49 Complete Chess System  486/33 MHz       1984   47   -47   221   47%
> 2006

What about Chess System Tal ??
Don't you have a version ssdf-guys ?

> 5 MChess Pro 7.1 Pentium MMX 200 MHz, 2516
>Rebel 9 P200X    6.5-13.5  Hiarcs6 P200X     23-12    Nimzo98 P200X
>7-13
>MCP 6 P200MMX   18.5-21.5  Shred 2 P200X   23.5-16.5  Rebel 9.0 P90
>24-16
>Hiarcs 6 P90      22-10    Genius 5 P90    20.5-19.5  MCPro 6.0 P90
>23-17
>Fritz 5 P200X      2-1     Geniu4 486/66     20-6     Fritz 3.0 P90
>1.5-2.5
>MCPro5 486/66   15.5-4.5   Fritz3 486/66   13.5-1.5   Comet32 P90
>36.5-3.5

What about the GAMES of Mchess7.1 ?
I would like to see the openings of those outplayed games :-))) !

>  7 Shredder 2.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz, 2503
>Rebel 9 P200X   10.5-9.5   Hiarcs6 P200X      5-7     Nimzo98 P200X
>12-8
>MCP 7 P200MMX   16.5-23.5  MCPro5 486/66     13-7     Rebel7 486/66
>4-0

> Ed Schröder has retaken the first place on the present list,
> but only with one single point!

Congrats to Ed.



> Mark Uniackes Hiarcs 6 has
> lost a couple of more points than Rebel 9, compared with
> the latest list, and that gives it a second place.


No wonder. Hiarcs6 book is not used to extreme opening line-battles.
But Mark could change this with a hiarcs7.

Mark ? Do we have any chances to get a new hiarcs ?


> The strongest new entrant on this rating list is Chrilly
> Donningers Nimzo '98 P200 MMX. After 245 games it has a
> rating of 2530, only three points behind Rebel 9! The new
> version of the Nimzo-program seems to be clearly stronger
> than Nimzo 3.5, probably with 65 to 70 points! We are
> impressed!

So my decision to update was the right decision.

> MChess Pro 7.1 P200 MMX is a new version of Marty Hirschs
> chess program. It does not appear to play stronger against
> other chess programs than MCP 6.

This reminds me to Jeroens statement.

What is the difference between version7 and 7.1 ??


> Whether Stefan Meyer-Kahlens new program Shredder 2.0
> Pentium MMX 200 MHz has been improved compared to
> Shredder 1.0 or not is difficult to say,

???
This sentence is strange to me.
Of course shredder2 is improved !
How can you doubt this ?




> but it appears
> so.

Aha!


> The reason for my statement is the fact that we have
> only played somewhat more than 100 games each with the two
> versions, and on different hardwares.
>
> At the moment the average rating difference between P90 and
> P200 MMX is 78 points. With this figure applied to Shredder,
> the improvement would be around 34 points. As it looks right
> now, Shredder 2.0 is one of the very strongest chess programs!
> But more games are needed in order to diminish the statistical
> uncertainty of it's rating.

Variance variance variance !
We need many different programs !


> In SSDF we are very pleased with the fact that it now is possible
> to play automatically also with chess programs for Windows! So
> far it works excellent with Shredder 2 and very good with Nimzo '98.
> Thank you, Stefan and Chrilly!!

How can I let Nimzo98 play auto232 with black ?
Does anybody know ?





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