Author: José Carlos
Date: 14:16:55 01/05/01
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On January 05, 2001 at 14:37:49, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 05, 2001 at 14:09:24, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 05, 2001 at 08:50:43, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On January 05, 2001 at 08:38:07, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On January 05, 2001 at 08:04:38, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 05, 2001 at 07:50:42, Mark Schreiber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In the match with v/d Wiel, Rebel is running on P3 866 MHz. Using a faster >>>>>>computer would be an improvemnt. Maybe a P4 1.5 GHz. They could also improve >>>>>>Rebel to run on dual or multi processor like Junior. The Junior that ran on an 8 >>>>>>processor at Dortmund would clobber v/d Wiel. At Dortmund, Junior performed at >>>>>>Fide 2700. >>>>> >>>>>You are wrong. Van der Wiel enforces games which are highly non-tactically. A >>>>>high node/sec won't help here. Deep Junior would have the same trouble. >>>>> >>>>>Uli >>>> >>>>I disagree. >>>>Programs can find better positional moves when they search deeper. >>> >>> But the curve strength/speed in non-tactical positions is almost flat. >>> For examples, if a program doesn't understand weak pawns, a speed improvment >>>won't help it unless it can find the loss of the pawn, which turns the position >>>into tactics. >>> I understand speed can help sometimes in strategical positions, very few IMO. >>> >>> José C. >>> >>>>Uri >> >> >>Speed is absolutely _not_ going to repair holes in a program's evaluation. If >>it is missing something important (say how to handle blocked pawn positions) >>then making it run 10x faster won't help one iota... > >Deeper search can help to repair holes in program evaluation. > >It is possible that the program does not understand that a move is not good >because the opponent has a positional advantage at small depth but at big depth >it can see that the opponent can get a positional advantage that it knows to >evaluate. That was what meant, but this will happen very few times, as those positional advantages will be related to each other, so if the program doesn't understand the small, in very few cases will understand the bigger. José C. >Uri
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