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Subject: Re: Will GM Van Der Wiel accept a Rebel plus Chess Tiger Team ?

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 15:38:21 01/05/01

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On January 05, 2001 at 04:53:34, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On January 05, 2001 at 03:28:15, Shaun Brewer wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 2001 at 03:00:05, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On January 04, 2001 at 22:13:58, John Dahlem wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 04, 2001 at 21:28:39, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 04, 2001 at 20:50:53, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>If Chess Tiger 13.0 plus Rebel Century 3 play against GM Van Der Wiel, allowing
>>>>>>the best move by either program, Will they score better than Rebel Century 3
>>>>>>alone? Mr Schroedder can you ask GM Van Der Wiel if he accept the challenge for
>>>>>>the remaining of the match?
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: I forgot that the Rebel 11 package doesn't have the three brains capability
>>>>>as Shredder . Therefore, a good player will have to decide move by move which is
>>>>>the best move to select from either program.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>
>>>>But they can't do that, it wouldn't be fair because then it is not only the
>>>>engines thinking, it is also a human.  And Van Der Wiel agreed  to Century 3, so
>>>>I doubt he will accept anything else, besides, don't fully count Rebel out after
>>>>this loss, the match isn't over yet.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>Besides that the sponsers have also something to say. Personally I would
>>>have preferred the Tiger to play but then one of the intentions of the
>>>organizers was to promote the dutch city Maastricht and therefore their
>>>preference was a dutch program to play.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>Ed,
>>
>>"You would have preferred the Tiger to play?"
>
>Yes because it would be interesting to know about Tiger. So far Tiger
>hardly played any games against GM's and Rebel has played plenty of
>games. Maybe the Tiger will do very good, who can tell?
>
>
>>Has something changed? I thought Tiger was focusing on Computer opponents and
>>Century on Human opponents.
>
>Certainly true for Rebel as this is my main interest, Tiger is a different
>story as Christophe wants the good of both sides.



Yes. I think that older versions of Tiger are maybe not as good against humans
because older versions had a serious lack of knowledge about king attacks.

Now with Chess Tiger 13.0 and Gambit Tiger 1.0 it's totally different because
they KNOW much more about king attacks.

There are certainly other knowledge holes to fix in order to compete well
against strong humans, but I think this one was the worst. Now that it is better
in this area, I have better expectations for Tiger against humans.



    Christophe





>>Please don't give up on Century it is a great program with some fantastic
>>features. EOC/CAT various styles of play etc etc.
>
>Don't worry :-)
>
>Ed
>
>>Shaun



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