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Subject: Re: Yet Another difficult position for chess programs

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 19:45:50 01/05/01

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On January 05, 2001 at 19:23:56, Joshua Lee wrote:

>Fritz6 - IM Nathanael Situru
>4rrk1/1q4b1/p5p1/1pPP1p1p/4p1n1/1P4N1/P3QBPP/1R1R2K1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 6:
>
>23...Nxf2--
>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2-- 24.Qxf2
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2
>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>23...Nf6!
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>23...Nf6 24.c6 Qc7 25.Qe3
>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  2kN
>23...Nxf2!
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  2kN
>23...Nxf2! 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2 Qc7
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  4kN
>23...h4!
>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  4kN
>23...h4 24.Nf1 Nxf2 25.Qxf2 h3 26.Ne3 hxg2 27.Kxg2
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  12kN
>23...Nxf2!
>  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  14kN
>23...Nxf2! 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2 f3 26.gxf3
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  17kN
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 Re5 25.c6 Qc7 26.Qe3 f4
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 6/16   00:00:00  32kN
>23...Re5!
>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  59kN
>23...Re5! 24.c6 Qc7 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.Rc5 Nxf2 27.Qxf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  70kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc7 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.Rc5 Nxf2 27.Qxf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:01  109kN
>23...Re5!
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:01  236kN
>23...Re5! 24.c6 Qc7 25.a4 Nxf2 26.Qxf2 Rd8 27.axb5 axb5 28.Qc5
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:01  330kN
>23...Re5 24.d6 e3 25.Be1 f4 26.Bc3 fxg3 27.Bxe5 Bxe5
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:04  1178kN
>
>(Lee, N.B.I 05.01.2001)
>Fritz Has yet to find this IM's move after 2 and a half hours on a 800Mhz athlon
>i am trying it out with 184MB of hash tables which according to the fritzmark is
>not as good as just 128Mb??? my computer has plenty of ram so this i don't
>understand (256mb).

[D]4rrk1/1q4b1/p5p1/1pPP1p1p/4p1n1/1P4N1/P3QBPP/1R1R2K1 b - - 0 1

Crafty seems to have found a draw (or a drawish outcome at least).
If you could tell us what we are looking for, we may know when we find it.

Crafty's log file:

E:\crafty\release>crafty1
EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
found computer opening book file [./bookc.bin].
hash table memory = 96M bytes.
pawn hash table memory = 10M bytes.
EGTB cache memory = 32M bytes.
draw score set to    0.00 pawns.
choose from book moves randomly (using weights.)
choose from 5 best moves.
book learning enabled
result learning enabled
position learning enabled
threshold set to 9 pawns.
6 piece tablebase files found
20899kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables

Crafty v17.14

White(1): st 999
search time set to 999.00.
White(1): epdpfga jl.epd jl.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
middle-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                6     0.23  -0.75   1. ... Qe7 2. c6 Qh4 3. Nf1 Nxf2 4.
                                    Qxf2 Qxf2+ 5. Kxf2 Kf7
                6->   0.32  -0.75   1. ... Qe7 2. c6 Qh4 3. Nf1 Nxf2 4.
                                    Qxf2 Qxf2+ 5. Kxf2 Kf7
                7     0.54  -1.09   1. ... Qe7 2. c6 Be5 3. Nf1 Bc7 4.
                                    Bd4 Qd6
                7     0.77  -1.04   1. ... Nxf2 2. Qxf2 f4 3. c6 Qc7 4.
                                    Nf1 f3 5. Ne3 fxg2 6. Qxg2
                7     1.18  -1.02   1. ... e3 2. Be1 f4 3. c6 Qc7 4. Nf1
                                    Qd6
                7     1.86  -1.01   1. ... Be5 2. d6 Qc6 3. Nf1 Rd8 4.
                                    Rbc1 Rd7
                7->   1.90  -1.01   1. ... Be5 2. d6 Qc6 3. Nf1 Rd8 4.
                                    Rbc1 Rd7
                8     4.28  -1.11   1. ... Be5 2. Nf1 Rd8 3. d6 Qc6 4.
                                    Rbc1 Rd7 5. Bd4 <HT>
                8     4.67  -0.94   1. ... Nxf2 2. Qxf2 f4 3. c6 Qc7 4.
                                    Nf1 f3 5. Ne3 fxg2 6. Qxg2 Qd6
                8     5.35  -0.90   1. ... Re5 2. c6 Qc7 3. a4 Rb8 4. Ra1
                                    Nxf2 5. Kxf2 Qd6 6. axb5 Rxb5 7. Rxa6
                                    Rxb3
                8     7.25  -0.86   1. ... Qf7 2. Bd4 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Re5
                                    4. Rbd1 Nf6 5. a4 h4 6. Nf1 bxa4 7.
                                    bxa4 Nxd5 8. Qxa6
                8->   7.48  -0.86   1. ... Qf7 2. Bd4 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Re5
                                    4. Rbd1 Nf6 5. a4 h4 6. Nf1 bxa4 7.
                                    bxa4 Nxd5 8. Qxa6
                9     8.66  -0.72   1. ... Qf7 2. Bd4 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qf6
                                    4. Rbd1 Nxh2 5. c6 Qh4 6. Qe3 Ng4
                9->   9.83  -0.72   1. ... Qf7 2. Bd4 Bxd4+ 3. Rxd4 Qf6
                                    4. Rbd1 Nxh2 5. c6 Qh4 6. Qe3 Ng4
               10    15.43  -0.68   1. ... Qf7 2. c6 Nxf2 3. Qxf2 f4 4.
                                    Ne2 f3 5. gxf3 Qxf3 6. Qg2 Qe3+ 7.
                                    Kh1 Qf2
               10->  21.85  -0.68   1. ... Qf7 2. c6 Nxf2 3. Qxf2 f4 4.
                                    Ne2 f3 5. gxf3 Qxf3 6. Qg2 Qe3+ 7.
                                    Kh1 Qf2
               11    30.57  -0.66   1. ... Qf7 2. d6 f4 3. Nxe4 Qf5 4.
                                    Re1 Bc3 5. d7 Qxd7 6. Rec1 Qc6 7. Rxc3
                                    Rxe4
               11    43.18     ++   1. ... f4!!
               11    48.08  -0.24   1. ... f4 2. Nxe4 Nxf2 3. Kxf2 Qe7
                                    4. Re1 Bd4+ 5. Kf1 Bxc5 6. Nxc5 Qxc5
                                    7. Qxe8 Rxe8 8. Rxe8+
               11->  54.86  -0.24   1. ... f4 2. Nxe4 Nxf2 3. Kxf2 Qe7
                                    4. Re1 Bd4+ 5. Kf1 Bxc5 6. Nxc5 Qxc5
                                    7. Qxe8 Rxe8 8. Rxe8+
               12     1:03  -0.25   1. ... f4 2. Nxe4 Nxf2 3. Kxf2 Qe7
                                    4. Re1 Bd4+ 5. Kf1 Bxc5 6. Qf3 Be3
                                    7. Nf2 Qd6 8. Kg1 Bxf2+ 9. Kxf2
               12->   2:01  -0.25   1. ... f4 2. Nxe4 Nxf2 3. Kxf2 Qe7
                                    4. Re1 Bd4+ 5. Kf1 Bxc5 6. Qf3 Be3
                                    7. Nf2 Qd6 8. Kg1 Bxf2+ 9. Kxf2
               13     2:19  -0.29   1. ... f4 2. Nxe4 Nxf2 3. Kxf2 Qe7
                                    4. Re1 Bd4+ 5. Kf1 Bxc5 6. Nxc5 Qxc5
                                    7. Qd3 Qd6 8. Kf2 h4 9. Rbc1 Rxe1 10.
                                    Rxe1
               13     5:40  -0.25   1. ... Qf7 2. d6 f4 3. Nxe4 Qf5 4.
                                    Re1 Ne3 5. Nd2 Qxc5 6. Qd3 Qc3 7. Qxc3
                                    Bxc3 8. Re2 Bxd2 9. Rxd2
               13->   6:29  -0.25   1. ... Qf7 2. d6 f4 3. Nxe4 Qf5 4.
                                    Re1 Ne3 5. Nd2 Qxc5 6. Qd3 Qc3 7. Qxc3
                                    Bxc3 8. Re2 Bxd2 9. Rxd2
               14     8:45   0.00   1. ... Qf7 2. d6 f4 3. Nh1 f3 4. gxf3
                                    exf3 5. Qd3 Qf4 6. Qd5+ Kh7 7. Bg3
                                    Qe3+ 8. Bf2 Qf4
               14->  11:01   0.00   1. ... Qf7 2. d6 f4 3. Nh1 f3 4. gxf3
                                    exf3 5. Qd3 Qf4 6. Qd5+ Kh7 7. Bg3
                                    Qe3+ 8. Bf2 Qf4
              time=16:39  cpu=99%  mat=0  n=542305967  fh=90%  nps=542799
              ext-> checks=10471779 recaps=2370076 pawns=3649162 1rep=714381
thrt:38583
              predicted=0  nodes=542305967  evals=147621247
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
Black(1):

I did not find this position in any game.  It must be very recent.



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