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Subject: Re: Yet Another difficult position for chess programs

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 22:44:12 01/05/01

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On January 05, 2001 at 23:45:44, Joshua Lee wrote:

>Fritz6 - IM Nathanael Situru
>4rrk1/1q4b1/p5p1/1pPP1p1p/4p1n1/1P4N1/P3QBPP/1R1R2K1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 6:
>
>23...Nxf2
>  =  (0.19)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2
>  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>23...Nf6
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>23...Nf6 24.c6 Qc7 25.Qe3
>  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  2kN
>23...Nxf2!
>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 4/10   00:00:00  2kN
>23...Nxf2! 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2 Qc7
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  3kN
>23...h4!
>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  4kN
>23...h4 24.Nf1 Nxf2 25.Qxf2 h3 26.Ne3 hxg2 27.Kxg2
>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  11kN
>23...Nxf2!
>  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  13kN
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Ne2 f3 26.gxf3
>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  16kN
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 Re5 25.c6 Qc7 26.Qe3 f4
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  33kN
>23...Re5!
>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  60kN
>23...Re5! 24.c6 Qc7 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.Rc5 Nxf2 27.Qxf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  71kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc7 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.Rc5 Nxf2 27.Qxf2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  113kN
>23...Re5!
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  244kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc7 25.a4 Nxf2 26.Qxf2 Rd8 27.axb5 axb5 28.Qc5
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:00  361kN
>23...Re5 24.d6 e3 25.Be1 f4 26.Bc3 fxg3 27.Bxe5 Bxe5
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:02  1234kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.d6 Re6 27.d7 Qc7 28.Qc2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:05  2983kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.d6 Re6 27.d7 Qc7 28.Qc2
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:15  8685kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.d6 Qxc6 26.Rbc1 Qd7 27.Rc7 Qd8 28.Bd4
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 12/31   00:00:37  20923kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.a4 Nxf2 26.Kxf2 Qb8 27.axb5 axb5 28.Nf1
>  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 13/34   00:01:31  53304kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.d6 Re6 27.a4 Nxf2 28.Kxf2
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 14/37   00:03:20  119326kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.a4 Nxf2 26.Kxf2 Qb8 27.axb5 axb5 28.b4
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 15/39   00:10:45  389930kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.d6 Re6 27.a4 Nxf2 28.Kxf2
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 16/41   00:24:53  915549kN
>23...Nxf2
>  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 16/43   00:40:32  1469441kN
>23...Nxf2 24.Qxf2 f4 25.Nf1 Qc8 26.c6 Re5 27.Rbc1 e3 28.Qe2
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 17/41   02:03:47  4507234kN
>23...Re5
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 17/43   02:18:33  5063435kN
>23...Re5 24.c6 Qc8 25.Rbc1 Rd8 26.d6 Re6 27.a4 Nxf2 28.Kxf2
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 17/46   03:01:20  6682712kN
>23...e3
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 17/46   04:05:35  9082320kN
>23...e3 24.Be1 f4 25.Nf1 Ne5 26.c6 Qc8 27.Bh4 f3 28.Qxe3
>  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 18/45   04:30:03  9989920kN
>
>(Lee, Pensacola,Fl 05.01.2001)
>e3! is the move to find but it takes so long as you can see. I have seen only 1
>other position take longer and that was Nolot 5 that i solved. Are there any
>that are more difficult? nolot 5 took over 20 hours (19/50ply). besides this
>find the mistakes by fritz in this game obviously prior to move 23 and other
>games at tournament time controls you will notice these high depths are needed
>to somewhat understand GM (or strong IM) level chess.

This is not a convincing output.  Look at the score.  Less than 1 pawn up.





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