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Subject: Re: Rebel Tiger and idiots....... or at least ignorant.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:51:26 01/08/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 11:57:47, Garry Evans wrote:

>On January 08, 2001 at 11:36:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2001 at 10:48:47, David Wilke wrote:
>>
>>>I was watching a few games between two computer accounts on ICC last night, and
>>>I noticed that both programs were using Tiger.
>>>
>>>One, I don't see the point in the games, and two, one of the accounts had it in
>>>his finger notes, that he didn't want to play other Rebel Tiger clones.
>>>
>>>The other account was supposed to be using Fritz 6, but his gamestart kibitzes
>>>were that of Rebel Tiger. So really, he was abusing the first account, by lying
>>>about what program he was using, and not respecting the wishes of the other
>>>account.
>>>
>>>I see this happen quite a bit, is there no way to implement a feature to noplay
>>>programs that kibitz the Rebel Tiger II kibitz?
>>>
>>>Crafty has such a feature, and I think it is a great feature.
>>>
>>>Or even better, as the Tiger interface automatically sets the interface
>>>variable, and if I am not mistaken, does it at the start of every game, why not
>>>have Tiger look at the persons variables, to see if it states Tiger is being
>>>used, and then noplay the person if so. I know the interface variable can be
>>>changed.. but what the heck :)
>>>
>>>What most people do not understand is, playing the same program you are using,
>>>usually turns out ot be a hardware battle, and is pointless. I guess kiddies
>>>using daddy's big hardware computer, and the gift theygot for xmas need to show
>>>that their big hardware can beat someone using the same program on lesser
>>>hardware. Geez.. grow up.
>>>
>>>Crafty asks the same of all the Crafty clones. Why shouldn't Tiger expect less.
>>>
>>>Can you imagine 14 Tiger clones competing for the next WCCC? That would be
>>>stupid.
>>>
>>>And if you are all wondering.. no neither of these accounts were mine :P
>>
>>
>>I don't think you can begin to try to understand the psyche of people that
>>run computers on the chess servers.  I understand why "authors" do this.  It
>>is a great development and debugging approach.  But as to why non-authors would
>>spend the amount of time they do to play online?  Don't have a clue.  I wouldn't
>>do it myself any more than I would spend all day trying to  compile all the
>>SPEC programs with a compiler somebody _else_ wrote.
>>
>>Seems pointless to me...
>>
>>Yes, a few are beta-testers.  And that makes sense.  And yes, a few are
>>"helpers" and that also makes sense.  But 99% of the computer operators have
>>no contact of any kind with the author or development team.
>
>
>  Perhaps these people simply enjoy watching Computers play chess? I do not see
>why it is so hard to understand why people would find it interesting to watch
>computers play chess.


That isn't it.  Otherwise they would just connect to ICC and observe one of
the dozens of computer vs computer games _already_ in progress.  I have never
seen a period of time where there were no computer games already in progress...

There is more to it than that..



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