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Subject: Re: ECM and extensions

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:23:21 01/08/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 17:30:55, Scott Gasch wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've been running my engine vs. the ECM 879 position test suite recently and
>trying to improve its score.  Currently it gets about 500/879 correct at 20 sec
>per move.
>
>I was reading in Ernst's papers about extended futility pruning and noticed that
>he includes DarkThought's results on the ECM to 8, 10 and 12 ply.  His engine
>DarkThought scores more positions correct on the ECM even when searching to a
>fixed depth of 8 ply than my engine does searching 20 sec / move!  My engine is
>getting 9-10 ply deep in most of these positions at a 20 sec time control and
>would have expected better results.
>
>This leads me to believe DarkThought must have some smart extensions in search.
>I currently do check, nullmove threat and pawn push extension.  I am thinking
>about a recapture but do not know how to perserve a small tree size with this
>extension turned on...  I see Bob's method for limiting recapture extensions and
>the method used by the author of AMY... does anyone have other ideas on how to
>keep tree size in check with recapture extensions?
>
>Second, does anyone have any other intelligent extensions to discuss?  Is my
>program's poor tactical performance on the ECM test suite a function of the lack
>of recapture extension or it there some other extension missing?

I hope that you are using one of the trimmed and updated versions of the ECM.
The ECM is probably the buggiest test suite of all time.  A bad result might
really be better than a good one, if you are using the original!



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