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Subject: Re: Asking for data on the relative strength of Tiger 13 and Gambit Tiger...

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 19:18:24 01/08/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 20:07:10, Peter Kasinski wrote:

>On January 08, 2001 at 15:01:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2001 at 13:11:34, Peter Kasinski wrote:
>>
>>>I am curious about what has been seen so far - please post the results,
>>>preferably at longer time controls. I have found Tiger 12e to be one of the most
>>>solid (if not _the_ most) and difficult to beat opponents. I am wondering if the
>>>effort to liven its play has come at the cost of ELO points.
>>>
>>>thank you,
>>>PK
>>
>>
>>
>>Not at all. Tiger 13.0 (Rebel-Tiger II) is 50-70 ELO stronger than Tiger 12.0e
>>(Rebel-Tiger). Gambit Tiger 1.0 (which is also included with Rebel-Tiger II) is
>>about the same strength as Tiger 13.0, we still do not know which one (Chess
>>Tiger 13 or Gambit Tiger 1) is the strongest.
>>
>>Of course I would like to have some independant opinions about this. I'm not
>>really independant myself about Tiger. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>
>Thanks for your answer Christophe.  I've no doubt that Tiger 13 is stronger as I
>have already suffered from it.  But how comfortable would you feel matching
>Gambit Tiger against computers?  Its attractive style is sure to please the
>audiences and might even be an asset against humans, but wouldn't other silicon
>players tend to be less impressed?  I readily admit to asking this based solely
>on a superficial "analysis".



Maybe, but on the other hand Gambit Tiger is able to build attacks that other
programs do not understand at all. That's why Gambit Tiger performs very well
against other programs.




>ps. The question I really felt like asking - but didn't - because it could have
>been considered unfair was: is it conceivable that you would enter Gambit Tiger
>instead of Tiger "proper" in a high-profile tournament any day soon?  :-)


I have done it recently: Gambit Tiger won the French and the Dutch computer
chess championships a few weeks ago.

The Dutch championship was a "high profile" tournament. You can find more info
about it here:

  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thstorm/docc00.htm

The page states "Chess Tiger", but it was actually Gambit Tiger that was playing
(I think I should ask Theo to correct this).



    Christophe



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