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Subject: Re: Asking for data on the relative strength of Tiger 13 and Gambit Tiger...

Author: Peter Kasinski

Date: 19:56:00 01/08/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 22:18:24, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 08, 2001 at 20:07:10, Peter Kasinski wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2001 at 15:01:58, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 08, 2001 at 13:11:34, Peter Kasinski wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am curious about what has been seen so far - please post the results,
>>>>preferably at longer time controls. I have found Tiger 12e to be one of the most
>>>>solid (if not _the_ most) and difficult to beat opponents. I am wondering if the
>>>>effort to liven its play has come at the cost of ELO points.
>>>>
>>>>thank you,
>>>>PK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not at all. Tiger 13.0 (Rebel-Tiger II) is 50-70 ELO stronger than Tiger 12.0e
>>>(Rebel-Tiger). Gambit Tiger 1.0 (which is also included with Rebel-Tiger II) is
>>>about the same strength as Tiger 13.0, we still do not know which one (Chess
>>>Tiger 13 or Gambit Tiger 1) is the strongest.
>>>
>>>Of course I would like to have some independant opinions about this. I'm not
>>>really independant myself about Tiger. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your answer Christophe.  I've no doubt that Tiger 13 is stronger as I
>>have already suffered from it.  But how comfortable would you feel matching
>>Gambit Tiger against computers?  Its attractive style is sure to please the
>>audiences and might even be an asset against humans, but wouldn't other silicon
>>players tend to be less impressed?  I readily admit to asking this based solely
>>on a superficial "analysis".
>
>
>
>Maybe, but on the other hand Gambit Tiger is able to build attacks that other
>programs do not understand at all. That's why Gambit Tiger performs very well
>against other programs.
>


Yes, I can see that it might work both ways.


>
>
>
>>ps. The question I really felt like asking - but didn't - because it could have
>>been considered unfair was: is it conceivable that you would enter Gambit Tiger
>>instead of Tiger "proper" in a high-profile tournament any day soon?  :-)
>
>
>I have done it recently: Gambit Tiger won the French and the Dutch computer
>chess championships a few weeks ago.
>
>The Dutch championship was a "high profile" tournament. You can find more info
>about it here:
>
>  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thstorm/docc00.htm
>
>The page states "Chess Tiger", but it was actually Gambit Tiger that was playing
>(I think I should ask Theo to correct this).
>


I was not aware of it being Gambit Tiger. And that pretty much answers all my
questions. Sincere congratulations, as the field certainly makes it look like
more than "just" a national title.

regards,
PK


>
>    Christophe



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