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Subject: Re: ERT x Shredder5 GUI

Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano

Date: 03:59:55 01/09/01

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On January 09, 2001 at 06:03:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 09, 2001 at 05:49:38, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:
>
>>On January 09, 2001 at 01:45:26, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>>
>>>Bullet 1 min. NO increment 24-games matches:(single processor)
>>>
>>>Using the ERT interface:
>>>
>>>Gambit Tiger - Crafty 17.13 : 13,5 - 10,5
>>>
>>>Using the Shredder5 GUI:
>>>
>>>Shredder5 - Crafty 17.13 : 20 - 4
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>I'm just curious about how Shredder5 GUI hurts Crafty:
>>
>>This statement assumes that the S5 GUI hurt Crafty.
>>You have no evidence, here, for that.
>>You tested Crafty against two different engines.
>>Wouldn't you EXPECT the scores to be different?
>
>Yes
>
>I expect Gambittiger to score better because Gmabittiger beated Shredder5 12-8
>in Enrique's tournament.
>
>20-4 against Crafty suggest that the GUI is the problem because the difference
>between Crafty and the top programs is smaller than 20-4 and shredder is not
>known to be a good program at blitz(the claim of the autor of the opening book
>is that the book was done to help shredder at longer time control)
>
>I think that the result suggests that the shredder interface is not good for
>crafty.
>
>It is not a proof because it is possible that Crafty was unlucky but I tend to
>believe based on other posts that the shredder interface is bad for winboard
>engines(I read that it caused gandalf to clear the hash tables so I guess that
>it does the same for crafty)
>
>Uri

I agree that the results suggest this.
I repeat, for others reading this:
To avoid this fate under the CB GUI, Crafty recognizes the "fritz" command,
which that GUI now provides.
I doubt that the Shredder GUI says "fritz" before every game!
If it were to say "shredder", OK I guess. But Crafty does not know that command.






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