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Subject: Re: Some GMs never learn

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:20:03 01/09/01

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On January 09, 2001 at 12:04:46, Ernst Walet wrote:

>On January 09, 2001 at 12:00:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>first 3 games v/d Wiel versus Rebel i had
>>som trust in John. He missed win after win, BUT he had
>>each time a won position, so no big deal. He would win
>>one i betted.
>>
>>He indeed did. John won the 4th game.
>>
>>However in the weekend we had national competition and probably
>>John's memory about computers has been wiped in the weekend as he
>>might have had some easy opponents who gave away pawn after pawn.
>>
>
>Your memory seems to have had a great blow as well, because the game today was
>game 4 and John won the 3rd game.

i had posted already before i could correct it indeed.

>Ernst.
>
>>To my big surprise he opened this day with a line that's completely
>>in the computer street. Big tactics everywhere, and of course mankind
>>gets exhausted then, that he then loses an endgame with a pawn
>>less, probably somewhere missing a draw here or there that's no
>>big surprise then...
>>...that loss is a result of getting completely exhausted at the
>>start of the game where tactics ruled!
>>
>>Anyway completely the wrong strategy against a computer!
>>Let's see whether he recovers tomorrow but if he plays in the
>>same way again: going out for a tactical fight against the computer
>>where we already know that John is tactical under my own tactical
>>skills, that's really going to be a happy time for the computer
>>then...
>>
>>So this was a free point for Rebel. Tactical bad human goes combining
>>against computer and loses, that's how i would summarize this game.
>>
>>That the actual loss happens somewhere far in endgame is no big deal
>>after getting exhausted for so many hours. Note it is again a tactical
>>loss in the endgame, but the KQP KQ would have been lost by John anyway
>>even if his king would not have been in check from the g1 promotion
>>field, so it was quite a clear loss in the endgame, despite the fritz6
>>comments on the homepage:
>>  "24. Ra1!
>>   White sacrifices a pawn for a positional
>>   advantage on the queen's side"
>>
>>This comment is complete nonsense of course. both 1 pawn on queen side,
>>if there would be compensation for white it would be on the kingside
>>as the e7 pawn from rebel can't advance.
>>
>>But especially commercial programs are very good in winning such
>>positions when mankind gets tired after an exhausting tactical battle.
>>
>>In the end the computer usually wins it...
>>
>>I would consider the position already lost for white here taking
>>subjective circumstances into account.
>>
>>For sure playing a long game with a pawn less is no good plan against
>>the computer!
>>
>>Even worse the grabbing of a pawn in the opening at b7 after which
>>the computer gets very active pieceplay!
>>
>>Of course a CLEAR result of that was that he started endgame with a pawnless
>>as v/d Wiel fell for some tactical exchanges that won a pawn for black.
>>
>>Some GMs never learn!
>>
>>I'd say how about grabbing a pawn from the computer tomorrow and see
>>whether it can also mate you?



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