Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:41:40 01/09/01
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On January 09, 2001 at 16:21:40, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >I only want to complete my previous reply to you, so I've snipped almost >everything. > >[ >Here was the documentation of the "new", "force", "send movelist", etc. from >http://www.chessbase.com/Products/engines/winboard/tech.htm >] > > >>I hope they don't really do that. If so, it is _horrible_. I won't insult >>the word "broken" by using it in this context. > >>This is all utter nonsense. The winboard engine protocol is well-known, it >>works _perfectly_ with winboard/xboard. Why can't the GUI designers/writers >>simply follow the protocol rather than hacking in ugly ways of doing things? > >Thank you. > >With regard to Chessbase: >I understand that you are in the UNIX world, and very busy. But I am surprised >that you appear to have forgotten about the above. When the matter first became >known, some two years ago (?), there were long threads about it here and in the >(formerly useable) rgcc. I believe your crafty CB native engine is working right >now, but when Fritz5(?) or Fritz5.32(?) first came out with the "engine >research" feature, and this was trumpeted a great deal of course, the first >crafty engine you provided to them(?), or authorized them to use(?), I don't >remember the exact details, wasn't running right. Someone noticed that it was >restarting it's thinking every move, even in extreme time trouble! Then, when >the above became fully known and admitted, after much argumentation and testing, >I clearly remember you posting that you "WERE NOT AWARE" of these injuries >inflicted upon Crafty! That was one of the reasons, along with the humiliation >suffered by HIARCS6.eng, that I became so incensed about this matter. There were two different interfaces from ChessBase. One was the fritz GUI. The other was the winboard adapter they did. I knew one started off broken (I think it was the f5 GUI). I also believe that this was fixed pretty quickly when it became known... Since I don't personally use the F5 gui at all, nor the winboard adapter, I never had any real info. I was sent lots of stuff by users that pretty well proved it was initially broken, and then later more stuff that showed it had been repaired and worked normally... > >With regard to the Shredder GUI: >If it is shown that the Shredder GUI does these same things, I think the case >will have been made. I think others have posted that it does. > >With regard to Lokasoft and Lex Loep: >It appears that he has done it right with the ERT beta. >He deserves full recognition and gratitude for this. And trust.
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