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Subject: Re: GUI SCANDAL ??

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 21:27:32 01/09/01

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Hi Hermano,

to end this discussion, here is the log-file Quark produces under the shredder5
GUI:

Input to Quark: xboard
Input to Quark: post
Input to Quark: hard
Input to Quark: easy
Input to Quark: easy
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: level 60 10:01 0
Input to Quark: time 60000
Input to Quark: otim 59948
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1      0       0          0 c7c5  <book>
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: level 59 10:00 0
Input to Quark: time 59961
Input to Quark: otim 59891
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1      0       0          0 a7a6  <book>
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: a7a6
Input to Quark: f1e2
Input to Quark: level 58 10:00 0
Input to Quark: time 59943
Input to Quark: otim 58362
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1    -62       0         67 g8f6
 2    -91       0        239 g8f6 b1c3
 3    -69       5       4292 e7e6 b1c3 d7d5 b1c3
 4    -89       5       5412 e7e6 c2c4 b8c6 d2d3
 4    -89       5       6774 e7e6 c2c4 b8c6 d2d3
 5    -76      22      25531 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6
 5    -76      22      29216 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6
 6    -83      44      60133 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 b8c6 d4c6
 6    -82      55      70409 b8c6
 6    -82      55      74357 b8c6
 7    -69      88     116267 b8c6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 c1e3 g8f6
 7    -64     148     201003 d7d6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 c1g5 f8e7
 7    -64     148     207020 d7d6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 c1g5 f8e7
 8    -82     230     329886 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 e7e5 d4f3 b8c6 b1c3
 8    -70     318     453623 b8c6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 e1g1 c6d4 c1e3
 8    -70     362     519464 b8c6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 e1g1 c6d4 c1e3
 9    -54     703    1005673 b8c6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 c3d5 c8e6 c1g5 f8e7
 9    -54     829    1197227 b8c6 d2d3 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 c3d5 c8e6 c1g5 f8e7  144
kNPS
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: a7a6
Input to Quark: f1e2
Input to Quark: b8c6
Input to Quark: e1g1
Input to Quark: level 57 9:52 0
Input to Quark: time 59102
Input to Quark: otim 57224
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1    -48       0         38 d7d6
 2    -77       0        203 d7d6 b1c3
 3    -48       6        687 d7d6 b1c3 e7e5 c3d5
 4    -67       6       1293 d7d6 d2d3 e7e5 c1g5 g8f6
 4    -56       6       2236 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 c3d5
 4    -56       6       2661 e7e5 b1c3 d7d6 c3d5
 5    -49       6       5637 e7e5 b1c3 f8e7 d2d3 g8f6
 5    -45      17      15206 e7e6 b1c3 d7d5 d2d3 g8f6 f3d4
 5    -45      17      15495 e7e6 b1c3 d7d5 d2d3 g8f6 f3d4
 6    -65      28      32286 e7e6 d2d3 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6
 6    -49      33      39553 e7e5 b1c3 f8e7 d2d3 g8f6
 6    -49      33      43247 e7e5 b1c3 f8e7 d2d3 g8f6
 7    -49      49      60758 e7e5 b1c3 f8e7 d2d3 g8f6
 7    -47      93     129325 g8f6 b1c3 e7e6 d2d3 d7d5 c1g5 f8e7
 7    -47      99     135814 g8f6 b1c3 e7e6 d2d3 d7d5 c1g5 f8e7
 8    -48     198     289627 g8f6 b1c3 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5 f6d5 c3e4 f8e7
 8    -48     220     319705 g8f6 b1c3 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4d5 f6d5 c3e4 f8e7
 9    -32     472     707196 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 d2d3 d7d6 c1e3 f8e7 c3d5 e8g8
 9    -32     500     743140 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 d2d3 d7d6 c1e3 f8e7 c3d5 e8g8
10    -32    1022    1575990 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 d2d3 d7d6 c1e3 f8e7 c3d5 e8g8  154
kNPS
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: a7a6
Input to Quark: f1e2
Input to Quark: b8c6
Input to Quark: e1g1
Input to Quark: g8f6
Input to Quark: d2d3
Input to Quark: level 56 9:41 0
Input to Quark: time 58066
Input to Quark: otim 55699
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1    -44       0         29 e7e5 c2c4
 2    -44       0         95 e7e5 c2c4
 3    -44       0        387 e7e5 c2c4
 4    -44       0        388 e7e5 c2c4
 4    -44       5       1049 e7e5 c2c4
 5    -44       5       1050 e7e5 c2c4
 5    -44       5       2557 e7e5 c2c4
 6    -44       5       2558 e7e5 c2c4
 6    -44       5       4226 e7e5 c2c4
 7    -44       5       4227 e7e5 c2c4
 7    -44      11       8255 e7e5 c2c4
 8    -44      11       8256 e7e5 c2c4
 8    -44      16      12305 e7e5 c2c4
 9    -32     340     508773 e7e5 c2c4 d7d6 b1c3 f8e7 c3d5 f6d5 c4d5 c6d4
 9    -32     532     793699 e7e5 c2c4 d7d6 b1c3 f8e7 c3d5 f6d5 c4d5 c6d4  149
kNPS
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: a7a6
Input to Quark: f1e2
Input to Quark: b8c6
Input to Quark: e1g1
Input to Quark: g8f6
Input to Quark: d2d3
Input to Quark: e7e5
Input to Quark: b1a3
Input to Quark: level 55 9:36 0
Input to Quark: time 57527
Input to Quark: otim 54624
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1    -26       0         47 d7d5 a3c4
 2    -28       6        321 d7d5 c1g5
 3    -34       6       3423 d7d6
 4    -18       6       5930 d7d6 a3c4 f8e7 c1g5 e5f4
 4    -18      11       8032 d7d6 a3c4 f8e7 c1g5 e5f4
 5    -18      11      12229 d7d6 a3c4 f8e7 c1g5 e8g8
 5    -18      17      17885 d7d6 a3c4 f8e7 c1g5 e8g8
 6    -26      55      71843 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 c2c4 e8g8 d1a4 c6e5
 6    -26      66      89039 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 c2c4 e8g8 d1a4 c6e5
 7     -8     143     205692 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 a3c4 e8g8 c2c3 c8e6 d1a4
 7     -8     165     232744 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 a3c4 e8g8 c2c3 c8e6 d1a4
 8    -10     357     534080 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 c2c4 e8g8 d1b3 c6d4 f3d4
 8    -10     434     658546 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 c2c4 e8g8 d1b3 c6d4 f3d4
 9    -10    1038    1581464 d7d6 c1g5 f8e7 c2c4 e8g8 d1b3 c6d4 f3d4  152 kNPS
Input to Quark: new
Input to Quark: force
Input to Quark: e2e4
Input to Quark: c7c5
Input to Quark: g1f3
Input to Quark: a7a6
Input to Quark: f1e2
Input to Quark: b8c6
Input to Quark: e1g1
Input to Quark: g8f6
Input to Quark: d2d3
Input to Quark: e7e5
Input to Quark: b1a3
Input to Quark: d7d6
Input to Quark: c1e3
Input to Quark: level 54 9:25 0
Input to Quark: time 56480
Input to Quark: otim 53413
Input to Quark: black
Input to Quark: go
 1    -31       0         60 c8g4 d3e4
 2    -24       0        365 f8e7 a3c4
 3    -24       6        935 f8e7 a3c4 e8g8 c2c3
 4     -8      11       5007 f8e7 a3c4 c8e6 f3g5 d8d6
 4     -8      17       7325 f8e7 a3c4 c8e6 f3g5 d8d6
 5     -1      50      24943 f8e7 c2c4 d8b6 d1c1 e8g8 f3d4
 5     -1      55      27169 f8e7 c2c4 d8b6 d1c1 e8g8 f3d4
 6      0     143      81337 f8e7 c2c3 e8g8 c3c4 c6d4 f3d4 c5d4
 6      0     154      96562 f8e7 c2c3 e8g8 c3c4 c6d4 f3d4 c5d4
 7      2     280     279263 f8e7 c2c3 e8g8 d1c2 d6d5 c3c4 c6b4 e4d5
 7      2     308     321206 f8e7 c2c3 e8g8 d1c2 d6d5 c3c4 c6b4 e4d5
 8      2    1027    1448701 f8e7 c2c3 e8g8 d1c2 d6d5 c3c4 c6b4 e4d5  141 kNPS

... and so on... as you can clearly see, after every move there is a new
command, a force command and then all the moves... so it's the same brain
damaged system then under Chessbase... --> And as you can see at the beginning
of the log: there is no fritz or shredder command send, so the engine will not
know that it is working under shredder 5... now it depends on the engine if it
works either correct or not, most will not, especially in ponder mode, but also
they can not use the information in hash from last search... because of the
new-command they are cleared...

Greets, Thomas

P.S.: I hope that will end the discussion in the point that there must be
something be proven... now it's up to Millenium to change this brain damage...



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