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Subject: Re: At 2 hours per move, which is strongest program?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 18:29:17 01/10/01

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On January 10, 2001 at 17:50:40, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 10, 2001 at 07:26:35, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>The question is all in the heading. I mean with hardware of about 450 mhz.
>>upwards (till 1.2 ghz?).
>>  This question is an ofshoot of Uri's comment that Rebel does better with more
>>time.
>> If you want to analyse a move for 2 hours, which program would have seen most
>>(of what is important and relevant, and consequently play the strongest move) in
>>those 2 hours. Or longer?
>
>Not only do we not know the answer to that question, we'll never even come close
>to knowing.
>
>Calculate the time it would take to play 100 games between 2 engines.  Then,
>multiply that by 30 high quality engines.  With 100 games, you will have an
>enormous error bar.  So 1000 games will be more like it to find a really
>accurate answer.
>
>At two hours per move, a computer won't play a whole lot better than at 40/2.
>That's because of the exponential nature of chess.  By 40/2, most engines have
>pretty well hit the wall.  You will probably get less than two additional plies
>by running two hours.  If you let it run 24 hours, maybe another ply or two.
>
>I would suggest asking correspondence chess players.  Maybe Robin Smith can tell
>us what he thinks about them, since he has faced many computer opponents.  Such
>an evaluation would be subjective, but a lot better than a wild guess.


You can try it a bit, or atleast test with test positions.
I often used to play such long games between 2 programes.
But Christophe Theron seems to claim very strongly indeed that doubling the
speed adds about 70 elo points. So much so that he considers it a huge
infringement of justice to give a much stronger program 450mhz to a much weaker
programs 600mhz in a tournament.
S.Taylor





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