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Subject: Re: Selective Searching

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 11:10:44 02/08/98

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Hi Bob,

>it was "debunked" because of hardware issues.  Chess 4.6 searched 6
>plies
>full-width on a cyber 176.  Mac Hack could barely search 5 plies, with
>no
>q-search, using severely tapered forward pruning, because of hardware
>speeds
>in the 60's...  IE Greenblatt couldn't even do a 2 ply search full-width
>at those speeds.
>
>What selectivity is all about is being careful at the root by going
>full-
>width, and taking risks farther out in the tree where you believe that
>even
>if you make a mistake, you have time to catch it in the full width part
>of
>the search next time and "fix" it.
>
>It's a trade-off...  do you want to find deeper tactical things?  Or do
>you
>want to find deeper positonal things?  Selectivity overlooks things.  No
>way to avoid it.  Question is, does what it find offset what it
>overlooks?
>Good question.  But your estimate of +100 is simply a wild guess. I'd
>suspect that a good brute-force program will play just as well as a good
>selective searcher.  They will each find things the other overlooks.
>The
>selective searcher will find deeper things, the full-width searcher will
>find things the selective searcher pruned away in error.
>
>Take your pick.  I tend to err on the side of simpler algorithms...
>fewer
>bugs means more wins...



You need to expand on your statement that a good brute-force program
will play just as well as a good selective searcher.   I don't agree
with this unless you are talking semantics (like calling Richard Langs
program full width because he does a few full width plys.)    Marty's
program may be the closest thing among the really strong ones but I
think he just put's all the selectivity in the quies search.

- Don



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