Author: Drazen Marovic
Date: 13:32:30 01/11/01
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On January 11, 2001 at 16:05:16, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 11, 2001 at 16:00:40, Drazen Marovic wrote: > >>On January 11, 2001 at 15:46:54, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On January 11, 2001 at 15:41:31, Drazen Marovic wrote: >>> >>>>On January 11, 2001 at 13:39:03, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 11, 2001 at 11:43:10, Drazen Marovic wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The sad thing is, if rebel had lost by a measly half point countless here >>>>>>would still try to deny comps gm strength. >>>>> >>>>>There is not enough evidence to confirm or deny the assertion either way. >>>>> >>>>>The 1/2 point swing in the other direction (for the comp) is no different. But >>>>>in any case, there are certainly not enough games to make a logical statement. >>>>>Only an emotional one. >>>> >>>>False. I have something you don't. The experience of grandmaster play. A life >>>>time of the study of the game. Non GM's do not beat experienced GM's in 6 game >>>>matches Especially by what should have been by 2 full points, if not for the >>>>graciousness of Schroeder in giving the last round draw. Sure it could have >>>>been luck, an amazing flip of the coin. If you believe in that unlikelyhood. >>>>There's nothing to talk about >>> >>>I'm afraid that you simply have a poor grasp of mathematics. >>> >>>And weaker players do beat stronger players by preparation. I'll leave it as an >>>excercise for you to find examples. >>> >>>Consider this you HAVE NO, NONE,NOT a CLUE what GM STRENGTH IS. By your faulty reasoning and not understanding what GM strength is. You disqaulify countless GM's from ever being GM strength. Pillsbury, Sultan Khan, And a good number of current day GM's as well. > >I think it's time for you to get a grip. > >I know what GM strength is. I have played against one, in fact. played 1 ooh i'm impressed, i was one probably before you were born. But I am >talking about mathematical demonstration As i said you are not talking about GM strength. When the world of experts on the subject of chess,(i.e GM's)judge Pillsbury's play,to be GM strength, When the world of GM's judge Morphy's play to be GM strength. No one disagrees, apparently not even you! Are they the other thing, that you are confused and thinking we are talking about? This made up construct which does not even exist a mathematical GM, no! Today and in the past a person, could win their country's national championship never having played before in a tournament they would be granted the GM title! Many times such tournaments are only 10 rounds! No one would be walking around saying the person wasn't GM strength. Gm strength has definitely been demonstrated. (the kind that I prefer) rather than >emotional demonstration (the kind that you are displaying). > >Not that one sort of choice is superior to the other. > >You are also wrong in assuming that I have assumed the NULL hypothesis. I have >chosen neither side of the argument. IOW: I am not saying that computers are >NOT of GM strength. I am not saying that they are. What I am saying >(precisely) is that GM strength has not been mathematically demonstrated for >computers. Furthermore, I also believe that eventually GM's will learn how to >play these things and do a heck of a lot better against them. But I also >believe that eventually the machines will grind GM's into powder. It is >inevitable because of Moore's law.
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