Author: Garry Evans
Date: 14:31:46 01/11/01
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On January 11, 2001 at 16:49:01, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 11, 2001 at 16:32:14, Lanny DiBartolomeo wrote: > >>On January 11, 2001 at 16:01:16, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On January 11, 2001 at 15:58:55, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On January 11, 2001 at 14:59:06, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 11, 2001 at 14:46:01, Garry Evans wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On January 11, 2001 at 13:39:03, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On January 11, 2001 at 11:43:10, Drazen Marovic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The sad thing is, if rebel had lost by a measly half point countless here >>>>>>>>would still try to deny comps gm strength. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There is not enough evidence to confirm or deny the assertion either way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The 1/2 point swing in the other direction (for the comp) is no different. But >>>>>>>in any case, there are certainly not enough games to make a logical statement. >>>>>>>Only an emotional one. >>>>>> >>>>>>Baloney! We have more than enough games, simply visit Chris Carson's chess page. >>>>> >>>>>Been there, done that. >>>>>Take the individual combinations of machine and program, and calculate the error >>>>>bars for ELO. They are close to infinity. >>>> >>>> >>>>Why do that? Why not assume that all computers are essentially equal and go >>>>from there? If only one is of GM strength then using all of them could only >>>>decrease the argument for GM strength. >>> >>>We can do anything we like and make any sort of assumptions that we choose. >>>Fortunately, we have mathematics to test our models afterwards. Without using >>>this tool, we are making emotional choices rather than logical ones. There is >>>nothing wrong with that, but (personally) I prefer a rational approach. >> >>Don't we have enough 40n 2 games to give a USCF type rating? > >Not even provisional. You can't combine every machine/program combination and >call it a single player. You are incorrect again, only 20 games need to be played to get a uscf established rating, Rebel during the GM challenges has played over 24 at 40/2 including the lithuatian challenges
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