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Subject: Re: 6 game 40/2 COMP WINS just as i predicted!

Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano

Date: 19:18:58 01/11/01

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On January 11, 2001 at 13:39:03, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 11, 2001 at 11:43:10, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>
>>   The sad thing is, if rebel had lost by a measly half point countless here
>>would still try to deny comps gm strength.
>
>There is not enough evidence to confirm or deny the assertion either way.
>
>The 1/2 point swing in the other direction (for the comp) is no different.  But
>in any case, there are certainly not enough games to make a logical statement.
>Only an emotional one.

That is a false dichotomy. I know it very well, because it was the foundation of
my whole world, twenty years ago. Sorry if that sounds condescending, but I am
taking the opportunity to say a few things.

Between logic and emotion is a vast grey area in which people must function. For
example, I KNOW, without needing hard proof, that Shakspeare was a better poet
than I. More accurately, I JUDGE him to be better, using my own judgement, and I
believe my judgement is adequate in this case, without proof. It is not logic,
but many important decisions are made in this realm! Will you accept this much?
Judgement is a tool for measuring chess strength too, especially the judgement
of Grandmasters. The opinion of a GM is a datum, which while not as hard as a
match score, is more interesting, for one, and more enlightening with respect to
the real chess-issues that interest us.

Well, chess is somewhere between a coin-toss and poetry, and I think the
computer-chess world, meaning you and Christophe Theron and others, are making
some interesting and important mistakes in its application of statistics, which
I might write about sometime.

You say that THE MATCH SCORE ITSELF is not enough to make a decision. Yes, and
that is EXACTLY what makes the Grandmaster's JUDGEMENT so valuable in such
cases! Do you understand this, and agree?
My opinion is that he was not doing statistics, he was just posting his
intuition and judgement, for what its worth. How much is it worth? I would
usually weigh a Grandmaster's (carefully considered) opinion more highly than
the match score itself, within reason.





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