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Subject: Re: ECM errata (501 thru 600)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:04:27 02/09/98

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On February 09, 1998 at 04:33:34, Amir Ban wrote:

>
>This group is relatively easy and problem-free, so this will be short.
>The hardest part is yet to come.
>
>
>No. 504 (Nxf4):
>
>This may be the best move, but it doesn't achieve much more than
>equality: 1.Nxf4 Nf3+ 2.Bxf3 Bxb2 3.Rb1 Bg7 and though Junior prefers
>white, I think I would take black.
>
>Recommend: Drop it.
>

didn't get this in 20 secs... no data as of yet...

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>No. 539 (Qh5):
>
>Not to argue with the key move, but 1... Nf2+ 2. Kh2 Rd3 3.Qc5 (Qb4)
>Rxh3+ 0-1.
>
>Recommend: Add Nf2+


I get both.  I get Nf2+, +5.79, after .5 seconds.  I switch to Qh5,
+6.03, at 2.8 seconds and stick there.  They seem close...  and too
easy...
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>
>No. 551 (c4):
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>It's correct. This is a pretty exercise in stalemating yourself.
>
>Recommend: No change.
>
>
>No. 553 (Nxf7):
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>I get Rxf7, which probably executes the key idea in the right order. The
>problem with Nxf7 is Be6!

for me, both are close.  Nxf7 produces a score of +2.3, while Rxf7
produces a score of +2.36...  crafty naturally prefers Rf7.  However,
I get it from ply=4 on (I don't print results for 1,2,3 iterations.)
It's too easy...
>
>Recommend: Change key to Rxf7.
>

I wouldn't change, I would add, because Nxf7 Be6 is still lost for
black.
I didn't run it for an extended time to see if the two moves diverge in
score later.


>
>No. 557 (Bxh4):
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>I get Rf3. This looks like the most forceful move. The key is also ok.
>
>Recommend: Add Rf3.

didn't find either move in 20 secs here...

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>
>No. 559 (Ng5):
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>Again this one may be best but doesn't achieve much: 1.Ng5 Bxg5 2.Bxg5
>Be6! (but not Qd4+). White gets the c-pawn for all his trouble.
>
>Recommend: Drop it.

I get Bf4, which is +1.48, at 2 seconds... I stick with this thru 20
seconds.
>
>
>No. 560 (Nf3+):
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>A position with dizzy complications. I find Ndc4 (+133). 1... Nf3+
>2.Rxf3 Nf5 3.Rxf5 gets about the same. I don't know what the intended
>line is.
>
>Recommend: Investigate.
>


I get gxf5 early, +1.17, switch to Nf3 at 9 plies 18 seconds, +1.34...
seem pretty close...

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>No. 562 (Nxf7):
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>The line is 1.Nxf7 Rxf7 2.Bxf6 Bxf6 3.Rxf6. It's okay to play Bxf6
>first.
>
>Recommend: Add Bxf6.


I get Bxf6 at < 1 second, switch to Nf6 at 2.11 seconds, scores are
close
(+2.7 to +3.3)  I then stick with Nxf7 reaching +5 after one minute...
If I tell Crafty to only search Bxf6, I get +4.9... so they are close.
And
easy...

>
>
>No. 566 (Rxc5):
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>I have a cook for this: Ne5! This eliminates the d6 pawn, but from the
>other side.
>
didn't get anything good within 20 secs here...

>Recommend: Add Ne5.
>
>
>No. 592 (Rxc5):
>
>I find Be3, and find that the pin on c5 does more (+351) than taking on
>c5.

ditto... +4 and climbing for me after 20 seconds...  But I find Be3
instantly at +2 and never vayr...  again, could be too easy...


>
>Recommend: Add Be3.
>
>
>No. 597 (Bf4):
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>I find Ba3 (+115). It's a bit fuzzy. I see that Bf4 only wins a pawn.
>Ba3 wins an exchange, but maybe the knight will be trapped on a8.
>
>Recommend: Investigate.

didn't find within 20 secs...

>
>
>No. 600 (f5):
>
>I probably should try this with Hiarcs. I don't see a win after either
>exf5 or Kg7.
>
>Recommend: Investigate.

I've searched this thru depth=16, score=+.33...  seems
ambiguous at this depth at least...

>
>
>Amir



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