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Subject: Re: the same old misconception

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:43:43 01/12/01

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On January 12, 2001 at 14:32:00, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 12, 2001 at 13:41:00, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2001 at 00:41:33, Garry Evans wrote:
>>
>>> A short while ago, i asked you on ICC, would you acknowledge that computers are
>>>of Grandmaster Strength if Rebel Won the Match against Van der Wiel, your answer
>>>Was yes!! So would you please honour this agreement and acknowledge here in
>>>Public that computers are GM Strength?
>>
>>This makes me angry.  When will you people understand that "computers are GM
>>strength" is a bogus statement repeated over and over again since it does not
>>include enough information. "Computers are at least GM strength in 1 0" is
>>certainly true. "Computers are GM strength in tourniament play" might be true,
>>"Computers are GM strength in analysis" will not be true for the next few years.
>
>For analysis, computers will sometimes have GM strength.  For instance, with 7
>chessmen on the board and 6 piece tablebase files, I think that they are clearly
>GM.  If you have 14 chessmen on the board, that is another story.  For closed
>positions, they are below IM (look at WAC 230).
>
>Out of curiosity, does anyone know of a program that can get WAC 230 at 40/2
>time controls?  If there is, I will have to revise my thinking on that one.


I haven't tried recently, but about 6 months ago crafty got it in 60 seconds.
It was very close as I could run the suite 4 times and get it right once,
and miss it the next three times as the thing would take over a minute...

I have Tim Mann's log file where it took 34 seconds on a single cpu 21264
to fail high on Rb4.  I don't think this is a horribly difficult one.  Cray
Blitz always got it quickly.  Crafty doesn't quite have the same evaluation
and has more trouble.



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