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Subject: Re: A Question to Dr. Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:40:35 01/13/01

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On January 12, 2001 at 23:53:57, Tania Devora wrote:

>On January 12, 2001 at 17:45:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 12, 2001 at 12:12:18, Tania Devora wrote:
>>
>>>On January 12, 2001 at 10:02:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 12, 2001 at 00:41:33, Garry Evans wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A short while ago, i asked you on ICC, would you acknowledge that computers are
>>>>>of Grandmaster Strength if Rebel Won the Match against Van der Wiel, your answer
>>>>>Was yes!! So would you please honour this agreement and acknowledge here in
>>>>>Public that computers are GM Strength?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2-3 years ago my estimate was that the programs were at about 2400-2450 on
>>>>the FIDE Elo level.  I would probably change that to barely 2500 for today's
>>>>much-faster hardware.  I wouldn't begin to suggest they are beyond 2500
>>>>yet, however.  They _still_ have a lot of weaknesses.
>>>
>>>If the programs have a lot of waaknesesses why these programs win against GM´s?
>>>
>>>I am sure that todays programs in a faster computer play at GM level under
>>>tournament time. Possible 2550-2600 elo.
>>>
>>>Tanya,D.
>>
>>
>>Why did the old 427 DOHC ford engine win a Daytona and _then_ fall apart?
>>In the next race it would fall apart before it could win.  This happens.
>>
>>Forget the 2600 Elo...
>
>
>But too, it could win the race again.....
>
>The computer programs can play at 2600-2650 elo, if the oponents do not knows
>that the oponent is a computer program,
>See Allwermann,  He won in the German tournament...He won against two GM´s using
>Fritz5.32 on a single Pentium II 450 Mhz..and anybody know that he was using the
>strong Fritz program.
>
>Tanya.


I don't see the point.  _I_ would do better against a GM if he didn't know
he wasn't playing another GM.  There is also the issue of using a program but
using your own personal judgement to override it when it makes an outrageous
move.  And all programs will make such moves from time to time.



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