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Subject: Re: Quantifying the benefits of fractional extensions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:18:08 01/14/01

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On January 14, 2001 at 00:37:12, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 14, 2001 at 00:22:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2001 at 00:05:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On January 13, 2001 at 17:19:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 13, 2001 at 17:13:13, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I just added code to my program to handle fractional extensions
>>>>>and recapture extensions.
>>>>>
>>>>>My problem now is: how do I test & tune these? I did what I
>>>>>normally do and ran it through WAC. It did worse. Probably not
>>>>>so surprising as they are nearly all rather simple tactical
>>>>>positions, so extending more (on checks...not so much on
>>>>>recaptures) is nearly always a win.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anybody here have a testcase? Maybe a set of positions
>>>>>where it _really_ matters how you do your extensions?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you added frac. extensions you your program, what made you
>>>>>decide to do so?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do as I did.  Make the extension amount something you can set via command.
>>>>Then run a potload of tests.  I ran WAC with all the extensions set to
>>>>values between .5 and 1.0, in increments of .25.  That is 3 cases for
>>>>each extension and I varied 4 different extensions.  81 tests and you then
>>>>look at which ones needed the fewest total nodes to solve _all_ the test
>>>>positions...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So Crafty is cooked for WAC!? ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>:)
>>
>>actually not, as I used a lot of other positions as well (IE I used some of
>>the "crafty goes deep" positions that were not tactical at all....)
>
>
>
>I am still using full ply extensions.
>
>I think I should try fractional extensions. Actually I did in the past. My 16
>bits version used fractional extensions (in 1/100th of ply), but I was also
>doing much more extensions. I mean I had more reasons to do extensions.
>
>As for now, I prefer to be extremely "selective" in my extensions. There are a
>lot of conditions to meet before Tiger triggers an extension.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


Fractional ply extensions give a chance for better control.  IE you can say
"OK, I want to extend 3 checks, then not extend 1, then extend the next three,
but not the next...  then you use a 3/4 ply extension...  it is also useful
for controlling the one-legal-reply extension since that is really a double
extension on one ply and extending _two_ plies is potentially catastrophic.



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